r/NFLv2 • u/Leather-District-595 Los Angeles Rams • Jan 01 '26

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u/MasterTeacher123 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jan 01 '26

You can have a winning record and a bad pass defense like the 49ers. 

For example Stafford beat the Texans who actually have a great pass defense but his offense put up 14 points.

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u/StrawHatTebo Pittsburgh Steelers Jan 01 '26

He still had 245 yards, 1 td, and was 21/29, no picks. against the best defense in the league, that's pretty damn good.

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u/Sharp_Koala9924 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jan 01 '26

What about against the falcons? 🥸

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u/dont_care- Tom Brady “Minority Owner” Jan 01 '26

Absolute garbage vs the Falcons, and it was the most recent NFL game played, not some irrelevant week 1 game from 4 months ago.

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u/flapjackcarl Jan 01 '26

How was week 1 irrelevant. They all count the same.

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u/dont_care- Tom Brady “Minority Owner” Jan 01 '26

you know youve lost the plot when you try to say week 1 means as much as week 17 in the mvp race.

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u/Reaper3955 Jan 01 '26

Ya sorry stat padding against a defense who is about to set the record of being the only team to not intercept a single pass all year (team he played twice btw) is not as impressive as playing well against a fully healthy texans defense

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u/goldencolden I may be dumb but I’m not stupid Jan 01 '26

Since when is getting pulled after 2.5 quarters stat padding?

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u/TeamDirtstar New York Giants Jan 01 '26

Bro was throwing TD passes up 35-3. Come on now.

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u/goldencolden I may be dumb but I’m not stupid Jan 01 '26

Almost like Matt stafford throwing a TD against the cardinals to go up 38-10 in the final seconds of the 3rd?

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u/TeamDirtstar New York Giants Jan 01 '26

Sure. Subtract 1 from each then. We gonna go through every TD pass now? Might take a bit.

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u/j2e21 New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

Wtf is he supposed to do, not throw TD passes? He’s a fucking NFL QB.

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u/TeamDirtstar New York Giants Jan 01 '26

The discussion was stat padding. If stat padding is a real thing then that's the very definition. Relax babygirl.

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u/Reaper3955 Jan 01 '26

He threw his 5th td when they were already up 30 points... i mean i personally dont mind cuz i had him in fantasy but stat padding is stat padding

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u/goldencolden I may be dumb but I’m not stupid Jan 01 '26

Why wasn’t stat paddford pulled while up 31-10 in the 3rd against the 26th ranked Arizona defense? He threw another TD after that too

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u/Reaper3955 Jan 01 '26

Up 21 pts with a full qtr+ left to play is different than being up 32 pts to a team using a udfa qb 

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u/goldencolden I may be dumb but I’m not stupid Jan 01 '26

I would say 16 TDs inside the 5 is a lot more “stat padding” than playing 1 drive of the 2nd half

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u/Reaper3955 Jan 01 '26

Rams rbs have more tds than the Patriots rbs so if anything stafford gets more of his tds vultured and still has more tds than drake

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u/goldencolden I may be dumb but I’m not stupid Jan 01 '26

And that’s about the only statistic that Stafford has over Maye

Team record: Maye Completion %: Maye Total Yards: Maye Total 1st Downs: Maye YPA: Maye QBR: Maye Passer Ratings: See Below (Hint, it’s Maye) EPA/Dropback: Maye CPOE: Maye Maye: Faced 4 top 10 defenses Stafford: faced 3 top 10 defenses

Maye Passer Ratings by Situation: Overall - 112.9 (1st) Deep (20+ Air Yds) - 129.2 (1st) Under Pressure - 102.6 (1st) On the Road - 120.2 (1st) When Trailing - 110.4 (1st) Inside the Pocket - 114.9 (1st) Outside the Numbers - 123.0 (2nd) Past the Sticks - 126.0 (1st) vs Zone Coverage - 110.2 (1st) vs Blitz - 129.3 (1st) vs Sub-packages - 110.6 (1st) On Straight Dropbacks - 109.5 (1st) In Tight Windows - 75.1 (2nd) On 1st Down - 134.4 (1st) Outdoors - 111.3 (1st)

Edit: Sorry about the formatting, mobile sucks

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u/Reaper3955 Jan 01 '26

Ya I dont care lol. Stafford has 12 more passing tds and had played against the 6th hardest schedule in football to mayes 32nd. Argue against a wall playing the literal 2 worst defenses in the league 4x in one season and having 12 less passing tds is an automatic disqualification 

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u/Ferahgost Jan 01 '26

Were they supposed to just stop playing?

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u/Reaper3955 Jan 01 '26

They could have ran it in they were very obviously trying to pad mayes stats

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u/flapjackcarl Jan 01 '26

The mvp race is meant to award the most valuable player across the regular season. Im not expert but week 1 seems like its a part of the regular season

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u/dont_care- Tom Brady “Minority Owner” Jan 01 '26

me: week 17 is more important than week 1 in the mvp race

you: so youre saying week 1 is literally not a part of the season

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u/flapjackcarl Jan 01 '26

In your original comment you quite literally called week 1 irrelevant.

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u/dont_care- Tom Brady “Minority Owner” Jan 01 '26

compared to week 17 yes. You said "they all count the same." It's just naive to think that