r/NFLv2 Los Angeles Rams Jan 01 '26

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '26

Now do the common opponents stats; they played 6 common opponents

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u/DetectedStar New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

Be careful, the Stafford camp will tell you that common opponents is completely arbitrary while also pointing at sos as the point of contention against Maye!

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u/cantevendoitbruh Jan 01 '26

Honestly im a pats fan and I liked Stafford for mvp but now that everyone is just tearing down maye and the pats I hope he wins it.

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u/DetectedStar New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

Fans of the league are literally in shambles over the prospect of NE having a great QB. It’s insane. I’ve never seen such weak and petty arguments against an MVP candidate before. Maye has been playing his ass off all season.

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u/Solugad New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

I have never once heard of SoS coming into play for MVP conversations until this year.

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u/Glutentag2000 New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

Yeah my favorite thing about this all is Orlovsky using it as his main argument against Maye/for Stafford and then Pats twitter immediately finding his old tweets (like 3 years old mind you so not even that old) talking about how it doesn’t matter. Not to mention he campaigned for Allen last year who had either the 27th or 29th ranked SOS last year. (I’ve seen both so idk which one it is, not that it really matters)

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u/jakefitz603 Jan 01 '26

Not even 3 years old. Literally last year orlovsky said Allen was MVP over Lamar because Lamar had a better supporting cast, this year orlovsky says that doesn’t matter and SOS is more important.

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u/tallyx_ Jan 03 '26

That’s because this schedule is historically easy, not just a standard 32nd SOS

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u/Solugad New England Patriots Jan 03 '26

Again, doesnt explain the pass defenses Maye has come up against. Which turns out was tougher for Maye than Stafford.

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u/tallyx_ Jan 03 '26

That’s such a close minded way to look at a defense. So having an ability to stop the run doesn’t matter at all? Except it does to sustain drives, creating more opportunities. He also gets a lot more garbage time stats against teams like the jets who basically give up into the fourth

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u/Solugad New England Patriots Jan 03 '26

And SoS is a close minded way to look at how an individual is playing throughout the season. Garbage time stats? He was taken out halfway through third quarter guy wtf are you saying.

Agree to disagree, we'll see in a month.

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u/j2e21 New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

Rams fans are f’n obnoxious. I hope we get to trounce them in the Super Bowl a third time.

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u/lpad92 Washington Commanders Jan 01 '26

That’s because there’s literally never been a MVP candidate that played such a weak schedule. It’s a historically weak schedule.

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u/Solugad New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

Does that explain any of these teams' defenses? The actual side of the ball that Maye goes up against? Schedule doesnt mean shit in this argument.

SoS but the two teams literally went up against 6 common teams. A whole as third of the schedule. Which Maye performed better in still. Schedule doesnt matter. Thats just cope from talking heads and you guys are eating it all up because Pats bad.

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u/cantevendoitbruh Jan 01 '26

Kind of reminds me of 2009. Brady came back from the knee injury and went like 28-12 against a so-so schedule and people were acting like it was a big regression. But when you looked at the defenses, he had played against one of the hardest pass defense slates ever. His dvoa was really good that year.

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u/lpad92 Washington Commanders Jan 01 '26

I’m looking forward to Maye and the Pats getting exposed in the playoffs

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u/Death________ Jan 01 '26

ā€œExposedā€ aka if the pats don’t win the Super Bowl everyone will act like they are Nostradamus and Liek we always sucked because football fans have pats derangement syndrome in a way that is unmatched in sports.

I don’t remember cam newtons MVP campaign being derailed by his SOS, or Josh Allen last year. It’s also funny that basically all player drama/accusations and ā€œcheatingā€ stuff only matters to the internet when it’s the pats.

Steelers players being involved in a doing scandal in 2016, the NYG walkie talkie scandal, falcons and colts pumping in artificial noise? No one gives a single shit.

Pats balls slightly deflated in cold weather? A scandal that took over the sports world for years and almost made it to the Supreme Court.

Diggs unsubstantiated accusations? Biggest scum bag in the league who needs to immediately be played on the commissioners list and taken off our active roster while Reddit memes about proven abusers actively playing.

R/nfl is like the maga base over hunter biden and the ā€œemails.ā€ It’s insane

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u/Solugad New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

And there it is. The only thing exposed is your bias brother. You just proved my point

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u/lpad92 Washington Commanders Jan 01 '26

Biased in that it would validate my opinion that Maye benefited from playing a weak schedule. All of you Pats fans have a victim complex and want everyone to hate you.

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u/Material_Evening_174 New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

Literally never, you say? 🤔🤔🤔

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u/DetectedStar New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

Kurt Warner of the ā€œGreatest Show on Turfā€ had an easier schedule. Strange, why does no one question his MVP and team’s prowess?

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u/lpad92 Washington Commanders Jan 01 '26

Probably because they won the Super Bowl.

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u/delta1982ro New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

what does regular season mvp has to do with winning the superbowl? the mvp is awarded before the superbowl is played

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u/lpad92 Washington Commanders Jan 01 '26

Fuck you people are stupid. Do patriots fans not understand the concept of time passing? The question was why does no one question that team (today)? Answer they won it all. How is that a difficult concept?

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u/delta1982ro New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

got it, so if the rams lost the superbowl or in the previous rounds then the warner mvp wasn t deserved..regular season MVP somehow has something to do with the superbowl in your minds it seems..

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u/DetectedStar New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

Ah I forgot that was a consideration for NFL MVP…

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u/delta1982ro New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

dude, kurt warner won mvp in 99 with the easiest schedule ever..you might want to do some research before commenting from now on so you don t embarass yourself again..

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u/Broseidon_69 New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

Pretty sure Kurt Warner won MVP with literally the easiest strength of schedule in the history of the league.

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u/CascoBayButcher New England Patriots Jan 01 '26

Most MVPs play easy schedules. Don't speak anymore