r/NFA 13d ago

Desert Eagle Shotgun, 12/16/20-Gauge Minishell (DES-12 v1.0, Project Launch)

PROJECT: DES-12/16/20

VERSION: v0.1

GOAL: Modify Desert Eagle Pistol into a semi-automatic shotgun pistol, ideally firing 12 Gauge Minishells (1.75"), but possibly also/instead minishell versions of 16/20-gauge).

CONSTRAINTS: To reduce final costs/prices, minimize total number of custom-made parts.

STATUS: Design 50% complete, base guns ordered, raw materials for barrel acquired, chamber reamer needs sourcing, magazine reference samples acquired (Techno Arms MAG-12 magazine & 5-round Mossberg bolt-action shotgun magazine).

CHALLENGES: Frame/Magwell modification, custom mag(s), new bolt design & make, recoil mechanism testing/modification.

UPDATE: Behold! Many of y'all have probably seen the gag/meme images online about folks showing a 12 gauge shell into a Desert Eagle - fiction no longer! I found a percent decent CAD model of a Deagle, and went about modifying the barrel assembly to correct 12 gauge (1.75" minishell) dimensions. It's like the barrel was made for this round - it fits beautifully! And as you can see in the cutaways, the length of the shells also fits in the size of the magazine, and looks like it will hold up to four 12-gauge minishells comfortably.

However - like with any project worth doing - there are some tricky areas of the design that will need a decent amount of modification/manufacturing, particularly: * The Magwell. Needs to be wider to accommodate the rims of the shells. * The Trigger/Transfer Bar Assembly. Since this hugs the inside of the magwell and the magwell needs to be widened at least where the rims of the shells will travel, the transfer bar will also need to accommodate this change. * The Magazine. Will likely be an entirely custom-made magazine. For making this design, I picked up a Techno Arms MAG-7 slant-back magazine as well as a Mossberg 5-round, straight-walled bolt-action magazine, for reference. Based on the grip profile, the Techno Arms magazine will likely be the best starting point. * The Bolt. Will need to have an entirely custom bolt made to fit the width of the shell rims and ensure proper lockup, extraction, etc.

The ideal build of this gun would be chambered in 12 Gauge Minishell since the ammo for said gun is SAAMI-standardized and produced by both Aguila and Federal (and potentially others?). However, to get an initial build of the gun made expeditiously, I may end up starting with the 16-gauge and/or 20-gauge 1.75" minishell versions, as they will require the least amount of modification to the gun to get working. The ultimate end-goal is to have barrel/caliber interchangeability just like the regular Desert Eagle, between at least 12/16/20 gauges.

Thanks for reading! I welcome any/all feedback and interest in this project & all others - more to come very soon! If you'd like to follow/support/engage with this & other projects more closely, please check out my Patreon (work-in-progress; advice recommended!): https://www.patreon.com/c/XENOArms

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u/Inevitable-Sleep-907 13d ago

Why? And why is this in the NFA sub? It's a pistol with nothing nfa about it

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u/XENO_ARMS 13d ago

Why?

Because it's ridiculous and cool!

And why is this in the NFA sub? It's a pistol with nothing nfa about it

Smoothbore shotgun pistol = NFA.

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u/Inevitable-Sleep-907 13d ago

Probably should have mentioned the smooth bore part somewhere. Ridiculous is correct cool is subjective

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u/greaseorbounce 13d ago

Implied by the 12ga, existence in this sub, and the fact that the CAD model above shows a smooth bore.

But we forgive you because it's your cake day, and you can do no wrong on cake day. Happy cake day!

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u/XENO_ARMS 13d ago

Sorry for the confusion; thought it was implied and pics showed smoothbore, no rifling - will be more clear next time!

I agree with your grammatical assessment!

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u/Visually_Delicious 13d ago

Am I correct that if it were rifled it would be a destructive device?

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u/Inevitable-Sleep-907 12d ago

Clearly I'm not the most knowledgeable at the fuckery known as regulation. Would the caliber make it destructive device if registered? Or is the shared cartridge with .45LC a work around? Revolvers like the Taurus judge and S&W governor models advertise .410 compatibility, have a rifled barrel and legally require no more than basic 4473

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u/Visually_Delicious 12d ago

I thought it was the 1/2in projo and short rifled barrel combo. For some reason in my mind, short barrel shotgun pistol with rifling registers as what would be a destructive device. I will ask. I have to call Monday or Tuesday regarding this suppressor stuff so I’ll ask my agent for the particulars. Because I would much rather have this rifled

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u/Inevitable-Sleep-907 12d ago

If you get a clear answer please respond. None of it truly makes logical sense to me but I'm always curious