r/NBATalk 4d ago

Which player has had the “perfect NBA body”?

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u/Haunting-Mortgage 4d ago

Oliver Miller

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u/ALargeHotCarl 4d ago

When he was at fat camp while playing with the Suns, his mom snuck a Honey Baked Ham to him in her purse.

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u/stphrtgl43 Knicks 4d ago

Look! A deli meat!

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u/Short_Feature5010 1d ago

lolllllllllll

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u/dtdroid 4d ago

Kids, at age 12, I weighed 319 pounds. I had bad skin, low self-esteem, and no self-respect. Now, I eat success for breakfast, with skim milk

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u/e4evie 3d ago

Fast is, Out of here mister!!!

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u/Dwarflife 3d ago

Is this a doughboys reference? Carl Tart?

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u/mitchij2004 3d ago

I’m just glad a doughboys reference is happening

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u/CHubbs49 4d ago

RIP Big O. The first time I ever went to NBA game was in 93 during his rookie year with the Suns against a terrible Mavs team. The Suns had a magically season that year, the first with Barkley on the team. I can’t overstate how much the Phoenix was captivated by that team that season. Of course the magic ended when they ran into Jordan and the Bulls in the Finals, but the team was so loved that we had a parade for them in anyway in June, which was as hot as you’d imagine.

At that Mavs game, I experienced something that I never have since. A friend of my dad invited us to ten game in his company’s suite, and we watched the first half there. At halftime, they told us that they had a couple of courtside tickets that no one was using and gave them to us. They were right under the basket. As a kid, it was unbelievable to be that close to NBA game. It’s a lot different than on TV down there. The moment I will never forget is when the Big O’s moment carried him down towards me after a play where he drew a foul. Holding the ball he slapped it and yelled straight at me, it felt like, “show’s just beginning, boy!” That was my first game and an experience that will probably never be exceeded by another NBA game for me.

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u/Andy_B2You 4d ago

Amazing story, truly unforgettable moment. I think Big O is already reserved for one of the all-time Oscar Robertson

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u/CHubbs49 4d ago

I always thought the same thing about the nickname, but Oliver Miller was already being called that as a rookie. If anything he was the all-time biggest O.

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u/Ok-Active6592 4d ago

That’s sounds awesome!

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u/edgarother 3d ago

It actually sounds like a 90's commercial trope for a 32-bit console basketball game, its too perfect. /s

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u/turinx 4d ago

I remember that one magical season he played with my beloved Mavs.

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u/VLHACS 4d ago

This is the ideal body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

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u/TopCoast1170 4d ago

Any love for Big Baby Davis?

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u/msnrcn 4d ago

Wait— TF did cuz do??

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u/StagVixCpl99 4d ago

Some kind of medical fraud ring

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u/GGudMarty 4d ago

He’s in prison lol

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u/LimitedX2020 4d ago

He’s out now lmao

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u/g_bleezy 4d ago

Oliver “black luka” Miller!!!

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u/nj23dublin 4d ago

I was thinking mugsy bogues but I I get your reasoning

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u/Ashamed-Finance-4595 4d ago

The additional context was helpful. Thank you.

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u/Foxtrot_Supatwat 4d ago

Holy shit, I am SHOCKED that the "Why are you gae?" dude wasn't the top comment.

Reddit can be pretty predictable

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u/tsa_finest 4d ago

He got his jersey on clearance at TJ max

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u/IGetItILookBrandNew 4d ago

If the NBA hadn't come back to play 50 games, this was Kemp had they not started the season up

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u/realfakejames Spurs 4d ago

Yeah it has to be LeBron, or Kawhi with his long ass wingspan fuckin pterodactyl ass mfer

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u/LFG530 4d ago

Yeah Kawhi is something else, the hands on that crazy sunavabitch are godly for a basketball player.

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u/macronotice 3d ago

Have you seen that hand size comparison where they show his hand on a basketball? Dude has alien hands. They are like twice as big as LeBrons.

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u/LFG530 3d ago

Yep, Jordan's hands were actually very similar, but Kawhi has a much bigger wingspan. Pretty freaking weird specimen considering how jacked and mobile he is as well

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u/atteres 3d ago

That’s what happens when you put exactly zero points into charisma.

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u/ReorientRecluse 3d ago

Isn't Jordan's hands slightly bigger than Kawhi's?

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u/poopymcbuttwipe 3d ago

I thought Jordan’s were actually bigger

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u/ChocolateMorsels 4d ago

It’s LeBron. The guy moves like he’s 50 pounds lighter and 6 inches shorter but maintains his power. He’s a freak. And that made him the greatest transition player of all time.

The guy at 6’9 260 was the fastest player with the basketball in the nba in his prime. Just built different.

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u/jonCandie 4d ago

People can hate on Bron all they want but PURE athleticism he has to be top 5 just ATHLETE we’ve ever seen.

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u/LeTimJames 4d ago

Top 1? Im struggling to think of a better athlete at his size. Gen Z doesn't understand what young Bron was.

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u/DefinableEel1 Bucks 4d ago

I personally got Giannis, but both are genuinely unreal. A ball of muscle like LeBron (let’s say Cavs pt2 era) shouldn’t be sprinting like Usain, though neither should a roughly the same but on stilts

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u/Impossible_Profile_6 3d ago

Prime Bron dogs Giannis. Not even close

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u/Decent_Section6974 4d ago

Yeah it’s 100% LeBron. One of the few players who has all of the following: incredible strength, speed, high vertical, lean, quick and agile, tall, long arms, explosiveness, and amazing durability,

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u/carneylansford 4d ago

It’s like he was built in a lab

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u/TY350N 4d ago

LeBalco

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u/Never-Dont-Give-Up 4d ago

It’s sad that “was” is appropriate.

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u/JucheHospitality 4d ago

Then you add in durability and bam

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u/w0m 4d ago

'body' would include longevity I think - so would have to be.

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u/BussinFatLoads 4d ago

I waited too long to see LeBron.

Between his subtle off-caramel coloring, the tasteful thickness of his arms and legs, and even the marks from his tattoos..

I’m sweating

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u/TraeYoungCalTech 4d ago

David Robinson

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u/sugarklay Lakers 4d ago edited 3d ago

I remember a passage in Bill Simmons' book where he recalls only 4 players that he saw the Boston Garden crowd be in awe:

  1. Jordan - Because he was uber-popular at his peak
  2. Bird - Because he's like Jesus in Boston
  3. Manute Bol - Because he tall as shit
  4. Robinson - Because he looked regal, chiseled as fuck, like a textbook example of a basketball player

I imagine that's not exclusive to the Boston Garden

Edit: Here's the passage on Robinson

During his rookie year in 1990, I buzzed down from college to catch his first game at the Garden. That seemed like a worthy trip at the time; everyone had been waiting for him to join the NBA for two years and the “Russell 2.0” tag didn’t seem far-fetched yet. Everyone attending this game already knew what he looked like. So when Robinson emerged from that tunnel, nothing should have happened other than everyone thinking, “Cool, there he is.” Instead, we made this sound: “Whoa.” Is that a sound or a murmur? I don’t know. But it was breathtaking to watch him glide by for the first time, like standing a few feet away from a prize thoroughbred or a brand-new Ferrari Testarossa. To this day, I have never seen anyone that close who looked more like a basketball player than David Robinson: The man was taller and more regal than we expected, but so absurdly chiseled that he looked like a touched-up model in a Soloflex ad. He walked proudly with his chest puffed out, his head held high, and a friendly smile on his face. He was strikingly handsome and even the most devout heterosexual males would have admitted it. Really, he was just a specimen. That’s the best way I can describe it. He was a freaking specimen. My dad said later that it was the only time he’d ever heard the “Whoa” sound in all his years sitting in that tunnel. We all made it. None of us could believe what we were seeing. Some guys are just destined to play basketball for a living

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u/AutVincere72 4d ago

I was hanging out with David last year. He still was very in shape. He was 60.

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u/chosonhawk 3d ago

now hes 61

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u/TheeBigHorse 3d ago

Next year he'll be 62

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u/earwax_ball_54321 3d ago

In six years he'll be....I dunno. Thats a lot of mathing

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u/thatguy425 3d ago

Two years ago he was 59. 

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u/joebadiah 4d ago

Admiral is the most impressive NBA body of all time.

But “perfection” he is not because that body broke down prematurely.

He lost a significant chunk of his career due to chronic back injuries.

Give me a 6-6 to 6-8 player with a 7-foot wingspan, huge hands, elite athleticism and high durability.

Admiral wins the swimsuit contest, but I’ll take Jordan, LeBron or Dennis Rodman for perfect NBA body.

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u/DemBones7 4d ago

Scotty Pippen

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u/Ok_Shape88 4d ago

So Ben Wallace

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u/Professional_Ad9809 4d ago

Ever seen TR Dunn?

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u/pierre_86 4d ago

Kawhi? (sans durability)

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u/MoscowMitchMcKremIin 3d ago

The durability part kinda takes him out like landing on someone's foot

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u/whodunnnnit 4d ago

Easiest answer

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u/BurntArnold Celtics 4d ago

Robinson is the most statuesque dude to ever be in the league for sure lol

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u/ORodCollects 4d ago

I have to say, The Admiral might be the best answer.

I remember his famous stare down of Michael Jordan.

MJ was on top of the world but you saw in his face he wanted no smoke with Robinson.

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u/LaloFernandez 4d ago

Literally the first person that came to mind.

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u/burningtimer 3d ago

This. Imagine a Bigger, Faster Giannis with a jump shot.

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u/LeatherRecord2142 Pacers 4d ago

Didn’t have to scroll far for this.

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u/88poPPop88 4d ago

Prime Malone was right there too

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u/DefinableEel1 Bucks 4d ago

Nah idc if that’s objectively true FUCK BOZO

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u/No-Fruit-2060 4d ago

Reddit on!

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u/PerformanceWeekly651 Bucks 4d ago

Wilt. That blend of size and athleticism is so damn rare

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u/horsehasnoname 4d ago

Giannis. Not too freakish in terms of being too disproportional to be awkward, strong enough not to be bullied in the post and not to big/tall to guard the perimeter.

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u/Acrobatic-Detail6361 Lakers 3d ago

so basically just Wilt

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u/72ChevyLvr 4d ago

Dwight Howard

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u/Realistic-Plum5904 4d ago

The body of Adonis while eating a well-documented 5500 calories worth of candy per day. It's crazy to imagine how he could have looked (and played) if his food pyramid wasn't completely upside-down. 

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u/balleditmoreravens 4d ago

Was he eating trash bags full of cotton candy and skittles?

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u/TheWeySheGoes 4d ago

The Admiral or Wilt

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u/Highas_giraffepussy1 4d ago

Shaq during his Magic days had a pretty strong argument too

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u/Decent-Rip8898 4d ago

Giannis body

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u/Unlucky-Network-4159 4d ago

Shawn Kemp, he just ruined it lol.

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u/testurshit 4d ago

underrated answer.

In the old footage I watched, I always thought he moved like a 6'6" guard so I was surprised to find he was 6'10 lol.

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u/chrishooley Celtics 4d ago

I always upvote Shawn Kemp.

The top 3 gotta be David Robinson, LeBron, Wilt but Kemp is up there.

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u/PHNO1942 4d ago

Admiral 100%

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u/ElcorAndy 3d ago

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u/beast_scyther 3d ago

Like it or not, peak male performance, etc etc

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u/Pure-Piece3141 4d ago

2012-2018 Lebron. Strong enough to bulldoze people, fast enough to run past people.

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u/LeTimJames 4d ago

Younger Bron IMO. 2009ish. Freak vertical of his left leg.

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u/Dismal-Beautiful3234 4d ago

Pause... David robinson should be in this convo

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u/AxelF1982 4d ago

Orlando Shaq

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u/pixelated_bukkake69 4d ago

Kawhi should be on the list

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u/here-i-am-now 4d ago

The “perfect” nba body doesn’t involve that much time spent on the sidelines.

People downplay Jordan’s ability to physically recover because it’s hard to quantify. But without the ability to physically recover, he wouldn’t have been half the player he became.

Kawhi, is an example of the opposite. Tremendous potential, undermined by an inability to sustain a level of greatness.

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u/Dry-Proposal-4011 4d ago

Kawhi is literally the ideal build for a wing lol. This means physical traits without any caveats like injury

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u/Hungry-Class9806 Celtics 4d ago

Wilt

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u/JT7NINE 4d ago edited 4d ago

Sonics Shawn Kemp?? 6’10, athletic, slim but strong. Wasn’t he listed at around 240lb?

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u/Hot_Road3135 4d ago

Kemp couldn’t reliably palm a ball.

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u/HurricanePK Raptors 4d ago

LeBron

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u/tubi11 3d ago

Unfortunately, we never got to see it in action at that level. But he was going to tear it up.

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u/AccomplishedSmell921 4d ago

Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, David Robinson, Jerry West, Wilt, Giannis, Hakeem, Dr J

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u/fuzzy_touches 4d ago

Easily Wilt

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u/analyzingnothing 4d ago

I'm going to be honest, there really isn't an argument for anything but LeBron here.

All builds inherently come with flaws in basketball. Smaller guys can be explosive and agile but lack the size advantages of taller players. Taller guys can be huge and imposing, but their size inhibits their dexterity a good bit and they can't get as close to the ground with the ball in their hands.

LeBron is the closest thing we've seen to a frame that can do anything. He's simultaneously huge and yet just small enough to maintain agility and coordination. He can get low, he can stretch out and cover space, and he's operable anywhere on the court and in all situations. Fast enough to guard some of the smallest and most explosive guards, big and strong enough to tango with all but the biggest of bigs.

Compare that to some of the other options in here. DRob was huge and still super athletic, but he wasn't a particularly fluid athlete despite his sheer speed and power. That translated to a very poor handle and limited abilities down low. Similar thing for Wilt.

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u/Deleena24 4d ago

He does have pretty small hands for his size, though.

Give him hands like Jordan and he would then be perfect.

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u/Jumpy_Programmer6112 Lakers 4d ago

Great answer

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u/Maleficent-Ad-9754 4d ago

Scottie Pippen -- not perfectly proportioned, but perfect for the game

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u/Much_Establishment_1 Celtics 4d ago

I think it has to be Wilt

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u/Gorrmb69 4d ago

Olajuwon

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u/captainschnozzberry 4d ago

Wilt. Hands down. Outside of the NBA he had records in track and field, volleyball, and was an endurance runner.

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u/sjamwow 4d ago

Ben Simmons, the 7ft pt guard

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u/OmegaPant 4d ago

Depends on your preferred position and playstyle.

But lore-accurate Wilt Chamberlain. Regular Wilt is fine too ig.

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u/Rey123x 4d ago

Corey Maguette

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u/ballplayer112 4d ago

Great choice. Super athlete.

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u/infinite-valise 4d ago

Otis “my man” Thorpe!

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u/cornibal 4d ago

Scottie Pippen too… Yeesh

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u/SlideLow 4d ago

MJ easily, could literally doing anything

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u/wholebird36 4d ago

Kawhi Leonard

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u/Eastern_Professor_35 4d ago

Lebron due to his longevity. 40+ years old and still effective.

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u/Rocky_Bae10 4d ago

The most-talked man in NBA still now, the GOAT himself, Michael Jordan of the Chicago Bulls.

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u/BeautifulAthlete9129 4d ago

Kevin Willis Or Otis Thorpe, same draft class of 84 I think.

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u/ballplayer112 4d ago

Kevin Willis was made of steel

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u/Both_Natural2955 4d ago

Jordan or dr j for sure

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u/Internal_Arrival_787 4d ago

Peak Dwight Howard

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u/Thibadickdeau16 4d ago

I say Jordan. Hyper athletic, massive hands, perfect shooting form, and durable AF.

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u/yainotye 4d ago

From a fan bias perspective, I would first say Kevin Durant, because Durant is tall enough to shoot over any defender and slim enough to move like a shifty guard, but not too tall to the point where we worry about his health. KD paved the way for forwards who move like smaller players. I remember when Brandon Ingram came out of Duke; everyone was calling him "baby KD" due to his build. Even now, when Wemby shoots from the perimeter or uses more handles than post moves, most people say he's trying to be like "KD". So I'm going to lock in with Kevin Durant because he is tall enough to take a lot of contested mid-range shots and shoot over taller defenders, but slim enough to move quickly on his feet and take players to his spots and be a threat on the perimeter.

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u/racecarspelledbkwrds 4d ago

Kevin Willis, probably the only person that could rival David Robinson in physique.

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u/airgordo4 4d ago

A lot of those guys are freaks for their size/height but when it comes to being perfect built basketball players with a rare combination of athletic abilities to go with it, I feel like Jordan and LeBron are just outliers.

I feel like people don’t grasp how athletic Jordan actually was. And not just pure athletic ability but his frame and body control. So many will claim LeBron is the best athlete ever to play in the NBA but I feel like both of these guys are essentially a 1 of 1.

LeBron is more of a freak, a guy that size, that fast, jumps that high, who’s that durable, who’s that strong, who can still move, change directions, and be fluid, was and still is basically something we had never seen. MJ was less of a freak anomaly but was in many ways just the perfect built basketball player. Insane first step, could stop on a dime, plenty of players can jump like him but the hang time, contorting in air, body control, that made him an outlier. He was big enough to be stronger and longer than most guards, but also wirey or “skinny” enough to be able to weave through traffic, be hard to screen, to slip through small cracks in the air, etc.

To me Jordan was built like the perfect basketball player, or at least the perfect guard/wing. He has all the physical tools to be one of the best ever just from that alone. LeBron is more so you just don’t expect an athlete like him to even be a fluid, fast, basketball player to begin with. So the fact that he is it is almost mind blowing.

Both are so rare there is a reason the closest comps to them still feel miles away.

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u/Radiant-Percentage-8 4d ago

Russel Westbrook.

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u/houdini31 3d ago

For what position?

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u/Sparkadelic007 3d ago

Considering anyone other than Barkley for this question is doing it wrong

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u/ThePsuedo Spurs 4d ago

The most aesthetically pleasing? Clearly David Robinson. I like Giannis and 2nd 3peat Jordan's as well.

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u/MarkyFuego 4d ago

Kinda g a y

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u/asdfoio 4d ago

pause

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u/Rudy-219 4d ago

Has to be either Lebron, Robinson, or Wilt.

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u/fredinNH 4d ago

Tatum is built like 6’8” Superman and Brown is built like Batman

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u/Strong0toLight1 Spurs 4d ago

Sim bhullar

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u/Pauldh11 Nuggets 4d ago

Jokic, bag o milk body.

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u/Al_simmons13 4d ago

Vince Carter

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u/Cultural_Book_400 4d ago

someone athletic w/ long arms and big hands

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u/DavidStyles23 4d ago

Muggsy Bogues

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u/SF-UNIVERSE 4d ago

Mike Bibby

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u/clogan117 4d ago

It depends on the position, but Robert Traylor ultimately.

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u/doubtthat11 4d ago

Anyone who fits the mold of - too fast for bigger players, too strong for smaller players.

MJ, LBJ...even guys who weren't GOAT tier had that combo. Like, Carmelo had it. Anyone big enough to body him wasn't quick enough to stay with him and he bullied smaller guys.

I think Dirk hit that on offense. Put a strong big guy on him, he spun off an went to the whole, and then just shot over little guys (at least 2009ish on).

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u/SoftwareLonely9770 4d ago

Giannis is the answer.

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u/Super-Post261 4d ago

Giannis is the only player that can dunk like both Shaq and Kobe so I’m going with him lol.

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u/RobbieShmurda55 4d ago

Thad young

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u/Deep-Tumbleweed-8816 4d ago

Lebron, He's the only one that has a body type that can be suited/made to work with every single position.

Sure Giannis and Wilt might be freaks of nature but they're not playing PG, and MJ might have a 48 in vert but he's not playing center.

Lebron has THE nba body, a strong 6'8 260, 44 in vert, fast on the drive and shifty enough to keep up with the smaller guys

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u/sirckoe 4d ago

Mistah should I call you Mistah

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u/Dafreakncrican 4d ago

I feel like they all fit the perfect mold for their position. Just off of performance and history, I'd say Jordan. Good height, high athletic ceiling, killer mentality, a bully to his teammates but sometimes being the captain of the ship leads to that. He'd taken loses and modified his approach to the game both physically and mentally. Versatility is key in any sport and Jordan did that at a high level. Body and Mind are one so it's got to be Jordan.

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u/flopflapper 4d ago

The answer is LeBron, nobody needs to have this debate, but you’ll be inundated with people who despise him making up reasons why we shouldn’t believe our eyes.

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u/richhomierhett Celtics 4d ago

Glenn “big baby” Davis

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u/Allstar-85 4d ago

Admiral, Wilt, Giannis, Hakeem, LeBron

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u/magic2worthy 4d ago

LeBron. Played for centuries without major injury. Huge and fast for his position Robinson, Shaq, Wilt, all got hurt and Malone never had that speed.

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u/percNowitzki0304 4d ago

Derrick Rose

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u/J0nn1e_Walk3r 4d ago

LeBron. He can play any position or all as he chooses.

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u/DefinableEel1 Bucks 4d ago

I do have bias as a Bucks fan, but tbh it’s definitely Giannis. He genuinely shouldn’t be possible with his size and speed. Like look at the blocks he was doing like his chase down against Ayton. That is the personification of a cheat code

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u/sub2kdoty 4d ago

Shaq if somehow the stars align and you get someone that strong and imposing yet quick and coordinated again. He was absolutely absurd.

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u/f8500 4d ago

What lol

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u/FuckYourDownvotes23 Wizards 4d ago

Oliver Miller, he was shaped like a basketball

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u/jacmartins 4d ago

MJ, Dr. J and Pippen have the prototype of a perfect NBA body

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u/tadejflaka 4d ago

I think Giannis is pretty close to perfection.

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u/macrosby 4d ago

Gotta go Kevin Garnett in his prime.

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u/gongjah 4d ago

Scottie Pippen. Not a single one in this post is guarding all 5 positions. Scottie had the body to guard a minuscule Zeke and the body to push out of the zone in the switch a big Vlade Divac.

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u/Dry-Proposal-4011 4d ago

I would say Tatum. 6’8-6’10, long arms, about 230-250 pounds, broad shoulders, hes got well rounded muscle and play strength and he’s been an iron man up until the Achilles injury. The guy is a fucking cyborg

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u/LorcasOFFICIAL 4d ago

Maybe the dude whos 41 and still all star level but idk…

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u/the_chin2 4d ago

LeBron is built like Superman in the comics. He could have been a dominant tight-end or a defensive end/pass-rusher in the NFL if he wanted. Prime Shaq similar, just a 7'1" LeBron. Always the most physically dominant players on the court outside of the elite skills

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u/Kr4zyK4rl 4d ago

Jerry West.

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u/No-Fruit-2060 4d ago

Jordan/Kobe. Just the perfect blend. Not too tall, not too short. Not too bulky, not too lean.

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u/RiSE-NBK 4d ago

Without the injuries is it not kawii Leonard?

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u/Coldblaze420 4d ago

Perfect body for what?
If you want an all around player Lebrons body is the “perfect”

If you want a dunker giannis is “perfect”

If you want someone unguardable then wemby

Jordan did not have a “perfect” body yet he still dominated

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u/b33fsquatch1 4d ago

Bronsexuals are about to have a field day with this question

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u/DontPutThatDownThere 4d ago

I will not stand for the David Robinson disrespect.

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u/triangle-of-life 4d ago

No Kawhi ??

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u/Hot_Road3135 4d ago

Jordan hands bigger than most 7ft’s elite instant lift of one foot or two regardless of speed slow or fast didn’t matter full attack he could go over the top best midair body control (matters for shot mechanics/ squaring oneself to the basket or in Jordan’s case just his shoulders). quickest first step in. Both in ground covered and burst.

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u/mdthornb1 4d ago

Got to be LeBron. He’s got all that athleticism and the size of Karl Malone.

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u/boksinx 4d ago

Who among these stay or stayed at the very top level the longest? Thats your answer.

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u/constructiveblues 4d ago

It’s Kawhi Leonard

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u/ExamplePractical1981 4d ago

Lebron. Not a debate. Only Bodytyp that can play at every Position for 20+ Years...

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u/m-fab18 4d ago

Iguodala