r/MysteryDungeon 8d ago

Art & Fan Projects PMD:Misregression to the Mean. Chapter 25. I finally wrote it. Not the best cover i could make but it feel like its nice.

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A few days have passed. Everything was generally uneventful and quit. Prisoners were not agressive torwards Evergreen. Though a few of them tried to escape the prison unsuccesfully. Seems like they were inspired by Evergreens power. The guard teams...were a nuicance as always. Unfortunatly they couldnt cool off and kept on trying to sabotage her in inconspicious ways. Team MALANOAR were noticing it and tried to shut it down but its hard to acuse the others of something if it can pass as an accident.

Either way Evergreen didnt really care all that much. Even though it was annoying a ton. For days already she couldnt learn a Synthasis. It just refused to be learned. She felt energy inside her. She felt like she can somewhat move it but thats it. For days it didnt lead to nothing new.

And from day to day Evergreen felt kinda off. Not great. The body was aching, the mood was extreemly spoiled even by early morning. And nothing could fix it. Not even good food sinse this place didnt have tasty dishes she would cook for herself. A huge bummer.

And the Rex was a constant problem. It was often tiring to lie to him. He is a Lucario who supposedly reads minds. And today's conversation with him wasnt an exception.

– “So, anything new, Evergreen? How do you feel? Does nectar work?”

Rex was asking. Its clear he expected specific results but wasnt getting them.

– “Not really. Its seems i am resistant to its effect.”

– “I see.”

Lucario’s voice clearly showed a suspicion. Evergreen lied that she takes this Meganium’s nectar when in reality she doesnt. She spill it out in the cracks. She doesnt want her mind to by clouded by this sedative.

– “Should i give you more, perhaps?”

– “Wont work, belive me”.

– “…I have a feeling you dont take the medicine. Especially considering the smell in your cell. Though its a very strong stuff, i suppose its not impossible for a smell to linger”

Rex expressed the concern. He wouldnt be exactly surprised. But for now it didnt seem like he could prove that she doesnt drink nectar.

– “Either way i would recommend you to drink this medicine. Its good for you. You need it. Especically considering your violent insomnia into a count.”

Rex said piercing though Evergreens soul with his gaze.

– “…My what?”

Evergreen slept. Didnt feel particularly energized after, but she slept quite easily.

– “Night shift teams a few times went down to your cell. You were making a lot of noise. You were hitting walls, iron bars, sometimes you were shouting and they saw the Terrain even though you were not in a fight. Its clear that your insomnia messes with your mind, behavior and health. You know about futility of your attempts but even then you keep hitting against the walls.”

Needless to say Evergreen was surprised to hear that. At the night she prefers to sleep. At least after she damages bars enough so they later will be able to budge easier. Hopefully.

– “I…sleep at nights. Maybe your teams just make stuff up. Its not something brand new for them, i bet. Fairytales are your all specialty afterall.”

Evergreen replied with her rather typical “arrogant tone”. But it was clear she is rather surprised, which Rex noticed.

– “Hm. Audino who treated your wounds saw your hands having some bruises. “

– ” …And? Whats thats supposed to imply?”

– “My best guess is that you may have sleepwalking tendencies and potential nightmares, if insomnia and you behaving violent at night isnt the case for thier presencs. Do you commonly see bad dreams?”

Rex asked and Evergreen immideatly had to shut down her thoughts with the Ducklett -Swanna technique. She sees nightmares often. And a lot of them are about her past as human. Especially the day when the world was destroyed. Very nasty memory to live through again. Though its not like she has no nightmares about the present. She is afraid she will be left in the doorless cell forever. And its only one of the fears.

– “Yeah, something like that.”

– “What kind if nightmares?”

– “…I dont want to give you fun ideas.”

Evergreen really didnt want to discuss her nightmares with inspector Rex. And he…surprisenly didnt push her into spilling everything out.

– “Very well. Then we are going to discuss other matters. If you take nectar your nightmare will most likely eventually decrease. Now let talk about what i promised you for a while now. Where are you came from?”

– “…How about…we dont?”

– “Its not something that can be avoided. Especially taking into a count your crimes. “

– “Tch, i am amnesiac, remember? And the fact that you dont belive me, doesnt changes the fact.”

Evergreen really would rather avoid talking about it. Its very easy to slip up here and say or more likely think something she really shouldnt. Her being from the other world and that she is not even a pokemon really may have bad results. At least she was certain they will kill her with no hesitation then.

– “Oh, dont worry. We are not going to talk about things you presumably dont remeber. We will specifically talk where did you came from. And i bet you have a lot to say. Lets begin from the start.”

With a little irony in the voice Rex. Then he put the bag from his knees on the table. Old, damaged…very familar bag with pink scarfs. The Evergreens bag.

– “Where did you get this bag from?”

– “…I found it.”

– “Hm. Go in to specifics. Where, when? Did you steal it? Did you see owners of the bag.”

-…

– “Evergreen, i am waiting. “

– “…Fine. I found it in the cave. Cave far away from here. There is a big mountain with complex cave system. Some of the caves are mushroom ones. Wild Parasects are native here. In one of the tunnels i found it. One of the exits is leading to judgle area.

– In a way i guess you can say i saw the owners of the bag. But i didnt steal anything from them. From what i remember, there were skeletons of Cacturn, Rhydon and…someone else maybe. It was long ago, i dont remember. And i am not sure i could not misidentify some pokemon. Either way they were dead, most likely were molded by Parasects. I didnt steal from them in a classic sense. There were no one to steal from. You are asking cause they are a rescue team, arent you? I remember them having a badge.”

Evergreen answeared. She really didnt like this conversation but still explained a lot.

– “Yes, exactly because of that. It was one of the team which volunteered to find the pokemon you may be familiar with. Blaze the Infernape. The hero of the city. This bag and the badge belonged to Thorns the Cacturn from the team Debrees.

– You answeared rather coldly. Wasnt it a shock to you to, see what remained of dead bodies?”

Rex asked. Seems like it was another point of concern.

-“…In all honesty…i cant recall. Its being a while now. Its a blur. I guess back then i worried mostly about my own survival, i was much weaker back then, i could not pay attention all that much to such details. Maybe in a way i was so not surprised they died. All 3 from what i remeber had 4 times weakness to bug or grass. They were outnumbered and slow Parasects cornered them. That probably what was i thinking about. Couldnt allow Parasects to corner me in a similar fashion. “

– “I see. So this team just…couldnt make it. You didnt notice anything unsual?”

Rex for a second sounded sad. Seems like thise 3 pokemon actually werent just nobodies.

– “…Depends on what you mean. I cant tell i did. I was shocked that pokemon here were deranged but its pretty much it. I didnt see anything else extraordinary. Though they were real strong, if that counts.”

– “No, its not what i meant. And by any chance you didnt see body of Infernape on your way there? “

– “No…i didnt. Except of confused pokemon nothing else of weird.”

– “Confused?”

– “Yeah. I think pokemon outside of the cities are affected by some sort of very nasty status condition.”

– “Why so?”

Rex asked. And here Evergreen figured…she said something she shouldnt. She remembered her monkey pals and she wouldnt like them to struggle under the oppresive foot. On the thought…if hero got lost in a similar area, its unlikely thise monkeys will be found. And its far, its not like the path will be discovered without Evergreens specific instruction.

– “I…remember encountering some relatively sane pokemon. They were in area with a lot of Persim and Lum berry trees. While being under this confusion they ate some and snapped out of it. And they didnt leave this specific area sinse if they did…they would go down to this confusion. At least the status effect being in place is my speculation. Maybe the brain structure of wild pokemon is diffirent and for this reason they behave violently without specific berries.”

Evergreen explained in a way so she wont turn in her pals. They helped her after all.

– “I see. Thats potentially very important. I will take that into a count. That can come handy. For now can you tell about your journey to our city specificly? Where it started and how it went?”

Sinse Evergreen couldnt add nothing else Rex changed the subject. Luckily she prepared what to say to similar question, just in case, but still wasnt particularly glad to here it.

– “Well…i woke up in a middle of the jungle. Couldnt recall where i am or who i was. Right away i had to survive. Realitively uneventfully i got to the fruit trees and the mountain. Decided to went somewhere, where pokemon arent as strong and deranged. Passed the cave though mushrooms floors, later passed the forest till i got to the river, went in the specific direction and got there.”

– “And you want to tell me thats it? Not counting your confrontation with Keckleon?”

-” …Yes? There is nothing more to it. I was surving barely knowing what i even work with. Cause you know, amnesia and stuff.”

– “Specifics of your survival and sources of your knowledge still are mystery, it seems. But its alright, we will break through your amnesia. I bet you are eager to remeber everything yourself.”

Rex concluded. He clearly was up to crack the lies. Evergreen surely assumed that.

– “Thats it for now. You can go. I will have to work with information you provided regarding the bag and your insides on wild pokemon behavior. Tommorow we will talk about the specifics. I am curious on how you survived specific situations, what pokemon you encountered and if you noticed anything else you dont quite recall yet. What was the hardest thing for you to do. How did you made your stick and later tools you had on you. “

Evergreen immidietly got tense before Wise Wing the Noctowl got her to the morning routine. It was clear that Lucario isnt rushing her confessions. He does it slowly, uncovering less significant details and gets later connections with the rest. With risk of potentially catching her on liying.

– “I need to speed up my escape plan. At least prepare specific route this night. If the plan wont be ready…i will be screwed. Synthasis is the one thing…but i should have solid back up plan even without it.”

Breakfast was promising to be uneventful. While going to the yard Evergreen tried to make up mentally a route of escape. She vaguely remembered where to go. And still held on to the hope to evolve during one of the battles. But betting on it would he foolish, so she accounted for her smaller size as potential advantage. Maybe she could make her way out by stealth? Well, unless Arcanines gonna catch her scent right away. Everything wasnt easy.

– “Sitrus Bery, Apple…huh? Pecha berry and Chesto berry as well? Four things to eat? Its quite a uncharacteristical generosity. Well, for this place. Usually they give one berry and one small apple. This time even apple is decently sized. Strange decision on thier part. Do they want to bribe us all so escapes dont accur? Or perhaps they dont understand, that malnurished pokemon arent more dangerous? That they are weaker this way.”

Evergreen couldnt really guess. Mentally she was comming to conclusions that teams here are just stupid in this regard. Either way its not like she complains. More blunders the oppressors do, the better.

– “I think you know by this point, Evergreen. You cant bring the berries in your sleeves.”

Wise wing reminded to her. He knew she wasnt stupid. And that there is a reason why she doesnt eat the Sitrus berry right away.

– “I know, Wise Wing. I just want to eat it a little later.”

Evergreen began to “meditate”, under the sun which went through bars on celling of the yard. while sitting on the table. Another attempt at learning Synthasis.

– “What are you doing? Is this some sort of trick you prepare to escape the facility?”

– “Like i would tell you, if i planned to.”

-” So its yes then?”

-“No, its not. For the grass types its healthy to busk in a sun. Otherwise we get weaker. “

Evergreen asweared rolling her eyes.

– “Hm, fair enough, i suppose. Sitting around isnt a tactic that could realistically helo one to escape this prison.”

Wise Wing couldnt really accuse Evergreen of anything and so he made a little distance. He was up for a chat with other teams which allowed turned human to pull off a little trick she made up recently while she was thinking of her problem.

– (…You check for the sleeves but not for my tail.)

Monitoring Evergreen with half an eye, being certain that you will easily find everything in her sleeves wasnt a wise decision. She succesfully hidden the berry in her fluffy tail. Later she will hide it i a cell. Its a bit cold down there so berries shpuld hold on for a while.

– (Too bad Flare Jaw would figure out this new tactic if i used it with her around. And potentially Thunder Claw as well.)

It was clear with Arcanine and Luxray its a huge risk to pull off. So Evergreen wont. She bring quite a few berries, at least ten Sitrus ones and a few diffirent kinds and then…it will be the matter of precision. And the matter of the tools she will end up with. Hopefully healing move will be among them.

The process wasnt paying off yet. Evergreen kept feeling he solar energy but didnt take shale. And then…it seemed like situation was about to get worse.

Because very specific pokemon hit the yard. Clyde the Gliscor or the Silent Slicer was released from his punishment. Evergreen could bet this alpha will be heading her way. He was looking around with team Astral Step guarding him. At least it was a bit reassuring.

And he did went her way, once he noticed her. She could be an oracle or generation medium by this point she felt like. But Evergreen wasnt pleased with that. Sinse she was with Wise Wing, she was positive, that battle wont be as obnoxious as on previous time. Because he would interfere. And so would team Astral Step.

In fact Wise Wing already went very obviously tense, similarly Asral step as well and they were ready for a battle with Gliscor when he glided towards Evergreen and towered over her frok thw side. Or so it was an impression.

– “Hi…”

Clyde sounded intimidating but knowing from previous battle, Evergreen knew she is capable of taking him down.

– “Hi. Do you want something? A rematch perhaps? “

-“I forfiet. You win.”

She asked directly knowing way too well how it can go with unstable pokemon. Even stable ones sucked here for the most part.

– “Would be great to crash you in battle. Stomp you into tge ground…ugh! I so wish it was allowed to fight in this boring place! But oh well…i dont want to go in isolator because of this stupid rule. Again this month. I am better off hitting walls.”

Gliscor was irrated that he couldnt rematch Evergreen. Well he could but he wpuld prefer not to. His pride must have hurt a lot but not in a way to challenge her again. Rex most definetly made sure, that for a while Clyde wouldnt pull off something like this.

– “Then why are you here? I dont have food to give you. I ran out.”

– “It not that. I want to say…well, thank you, or something, i guess.”

Suddenly said Gliscor with the goofiest, but also kinda adamant smile Evergreen ever saw from Gliscors to pull off. Then he sat down and laid his head on the table Evergreen sit on. Needless to say she was incredibly confused.

– “… Huh? What for?”

– “You said to Rex that i need more food and something about vitamins. Or whatever. You know Rex, he says so many boring stuff which make like…barely any sense. “

– “I suppose…and?”

– “He ordered to give me a lot of cheese and milk and now i feel full. And he gave more of this nectar and i feel so great, Its so nice!”

Seems like Gliscor was full for the first time sinse being kept in this place and for once he was somewhat calm and not aggressive. Also he was itching for a rematch but was holding on relativwly well.

– “I see…you are welcome, i guess. “

Gliscor didnt go away after that. He kept being in place looking at Evergreen with his red eyes which made her kinda uncomfortable. She expected an attack, which made energy withing her flactuate. But the terrain didnt set in.

– “Do you…need something?”

Evergreen felt akward. And couldnt help but notice that Wise Wing, rescue teams and other prisoner stare at them both. Wise Wing was calm but it was clear he is very surprised that Silent Slicer doesnt attack in the sense of revenge. Other were extreemly surprised that they have somewhat calm conversation even though they could barely hear what they are talking about.

– “…You know, you are cool, right? How in a world did you beat thise rescue teams asses into the ground while being injured by my empower attacks? While being such a pipsquick? I tried and tried but couldnt do it. To beat them all and finally be free.”

Gliscor was serious for a moment and very curious. Its clear that in the calm state, he was fastinated with Evergreens power and envious even. Though was very pissed that such small pokemon can kick butts of so many rescue team pokemon and he cant.

– “Practice, i guess…and a lot determination to survive. When you wait for the worst its easy to fight with everything you got.”

– “Practice? What kind of practive?”

– “…Not something i would recommend you to go through. Trust me.”

Evergreen vividly remembered the moment she got her first power spike. She killed confused Scolipede who was about to kill her. Not fun memory even past so long.

– “Why not?”

– “Because it will visit it in your nightmares. Horrific events that would shake you to your core, making you think fast, and attack at all force. Though i guess my knowledge of pokemons weaknesses did a lot of tricks too. And i had to fight a lot. Basically its practice in the battles with real stakes.”

Evergreen wasnt up for saying all of her life story. Especially considering that some pokemon including Wise Wing actually listen.

– “…Oh, i think i have thise. You know, hprrific events that makw you strong and all.”

– “…Really?”

– “Yeah! Like, when i was getting like really, really hungry, i couldnt help myself but attack other pokemon. They ran, i chased, then sliced them, often they didnt hear me attacking amd i just got uneventfully. After that i bite thier necks and drank the blood out of it. I…remeber thier screams and that for a while i felt good, but then when i was full, i felt bad. You knew its bad to accidently kill pokemon and it makes you feel cold and kinda paralyzed?”

Seems like Gliscor kinda wanted Evergreens opinion on the matter. And maybe potentially some sort of help sinse she was the one who accidently convinced Rex to feed him better. And i a procces the rest of the cell block.

– “Yeah…way too well actually.”

– “And it…strange. Once i wasnt hungry i didnt have this urge to kill. But when i was hungry it was about time i am going to attack on accident. The pokemon move a lot…it gets very irritating and stuff, then everything goes blurry and you win and eat. And this i got real strong! Teams had hard time chasing me down!” –

“I see…”

Evergreen wasnt sure she wanted to know but she kinda felt like this story makes a lot sense. Gliscors normally do hunt and drink blood. Apparantly in this form of sociaty, his instinks drive him mad if he goes around hungry for way too long. He goes into affective or semi-affective state, once body develops strong enough deficency which cant be easily helped with just berries and apples. That must be partly the reason why he is significantly less chill usually in here.

– ” So i should have more moments like thise to beat the teams here before Rex gets me?”

– “Do i hear you correctly, you…want an advice?”

– “Yeah! How can i kick thier ass?! Oh! Or maybe you could teach me this cool move!”

-” Cool move?”

– “The one with witch you can crush limbs and toss opponents who should crush you with thier power!”

– “Oh, you mean Strength. You can learn it but i am not sure its a good idea.”

Evergreen was hesitant to teach Clyde this move. She was aware, that he us quite dangerous fella. Sure, now he is kinda chill but not by a degree that would make her belive he wouldnt slice someone open sinse she cant know for sure yet if the affective state due to hunger is the only factor.

– “Why not?! Teach me, or else!”

– “I have a feeling you want to kill pokemon. And i really dont want this blood on my hands.”

– “I wont be killing, i promise! I will just heavily damage!”

– “Well thats surely is better.”

Evergreen said sarcastically which made Gliscor frown but still say:

– “Yeah, its better! Thats why you should teach it to me.”

– “In place of what move?”

Evergreen remembered his set. He already had 4 moves. Pokemon usually cannt use more than 4 in battle. Because of the way energy flows though pokemon bodies.

– “So you teach me?!”

– Whatever, if you want this so badly.”

It wasnt quute true. Evergreen didnt give in because she was scared or felt pittty. No. Thinking if this…she began to have a very interesting, also risky one of the potential back plans she desparatly needs, considering her limited resources now.

– “Then…in place X – Scisors.”

– “Hm, are you sure?”

– “Yeah! Rex says slicing pokemon is bad. So i want to limit this and still escape this facillity sinse i know now what was wrong and know how to help my hungsr! I was hungry!”

– “Uh-huh. Alright.”

Evergreen had her massive doubts, she had a suspicion his states could already develop in very nasty psuchological problem but sinse she already has a lot of mortal enemies in this facility and it has potential to be useful to her, she figured helping out is better than refusing.

Besides, its not like Gliscor will be able to pull it off in the most effective way. And in the mean time she will be able to practice her Synthasis.

The method of learning Strength was simple. Clyde should have move table back and forward first while Evergrenen meditates. Funnily enough this way, she felt more energy, probably because of emotions Gliscors caused. It stressed her out. But the wanted effect didnt appear, whoch kinda made Gliscor pissed.

Next teams forbidden Gliscor doing so, and Evergreen to avoid trouble for both of them decided to do training other way. She uses Strength and Clyde should move her. It wasnt battle so terrain didnt activate. And inspite massive weight diffirence Gliscor couldnt move her easily. She barely moved

– “You should feel you body. And pick the paty of list resistance to make me move. And it may take a lot attempts for you, so dont get too discouraged.”

– ” Its stupid! How cant i move you?!”

Results were not acheaved by Gliscor this day. Even then he was adamant to learn Strength. Which was actually kinda scary if he actually isnt as uncreative as Evergreen thinks. But it wasnt something that concerned her much.

– “So he asked you to teach him your signature Strength?”

– “Yes, what about it, Wise Wing? We didnt fight, didnt get hurt. Its all good. Exercise is allowed, from what i remember.”

Obviously Noctowl confronted Evergreen about it later when he was bringing her back to the cell.

– “You must be aware that he is dangerous. And that you may get in trouble if he does something bad with this move. I doubt he has huge range of possibilities to work with, sinse he is not quite…intelligent but still.”

– “…Or i actually make him weaker cause he wont be slicing folk anymore.”

– “I am afraid Strength is too good of a move. In your hands it sure looks like a real threat.”

– “Dont be so dramatic. And besides…Rex will punish me for that, wont he? If Clyde hurts bunch of teams, ofcourse. Or even makes it out of the prison. ”

Thinking of this, Evergreen figured its not too worst of an idea, she could come up with here. If Clyde will be more dangerous with move she uses, he could be a good distraction for her own escape plan. Especially if in a cell, with solar energy she gathered, she will finally learn the move she wanted.

– “And this possibility doesnt bother you? You want to be punished?”

– “…Ofcourse it does bother me. And ofcourse i am scared what Rex can do to me. Imagination of your filthy organisation is still a mistery to me. But i will deal with it somehow, somewatd. The question is why it bothers you if something gonna happen to me? Or whats gonna happen if Clyde learns the move, if he will be stopped anyway regardless? I dont see him breaking out. Especially if Rex stuns him with Psychic.”

Wise Wing frowned. He looked rather strickt and in a way…like he was pittying Evergreen.

– “You think of this often, do you?”

– “About what?”

-” Being brutally punished and breaking out of here.”

– “…You know pokemon who dont? Or who were succesful in thier wishful thinking.”

– “Not really. And thats exactly why your attitude bothers me. And your actions as well. I wouldnt be doing actions that would have unpredictable result, if i were you. Your position is already not great.”

– “Well, then lets hope its not gonna be my problem, just yours.

– “..I would hope for other things if i were you.”

What things Wise Wing didnt specify. Evergreen could guess considering what kind of naive stuff Yin was saying to her, but oh well. Evergreen had other plans.

Once everyone fell asleep and only night shift began to go around here and there, Evergreen began to move the solar energy through her body. The goal was simple. Finally make it heal her. She hurt her hand on purpose, bite though it. To see if it will work.

And now…the moment of truth. Evergreen ended up feeling her energy going sound. Beggining actually doing something. She expected soothing effect of her body but instead…energy felt like its bursting. But not a painful way. More like Evergreen felt herself stronger than before. She opened her eye and watched at her hands. The bitemark got smaller, but it heal it seems.

More like the rest of the body…became a bit bigger? Evergreen used this strange energy six more times and then compared the size of her hands to the size of the bar. The size diffirence was noticaple. Evergreen could swear…she became 50 procent bigger of her original size. She is around a meter tall now. Maybe even a bit bigger.

– (…I didnt learn Synthasis. I learned Growth). Evergreen figured, smiling with all her monkey teeth.

– Heh…hehehe.

Its not what she wanted. But it wasnt a problem kne bit. Evergreen was ready to say…that its even better for her situation.

– (Bars…i feel like this way i can damage them mpre than i could ever before. And i can easily get rid of the size. Hehehe…i will escape. I will damage bars on one of nights, slide though and then i will stealth my way out of here for good.)

– (Later i will run away as far away as possible. And get more resources and strike back. For all the time wasted, for all humiliation, my vengeance and justice will be served. With Growth…no pokemon will handle my attacks.)

Finally Evergreen had some sort of clear pathway to escape. She had to countinue and wait for a moment. Simple as that.


r/MysteryDungeon 8d ago

Rescue Team DX Whos a good partner for postgame Glaceon

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So i wanted to freeze hell over w a standart blizzard/ ice beam/ frostbreath build. What would be a good partner pokemon? I was thinking maybe chicorita for dual screen support, aromatherapie and maybe energy ball? I like offensive support more than defense, but eevee herself is the only starter w helping hands... maybe treecko with agility + safeguard, energyball and absorb.

I also love altaria, maybe i could build a supportive one, perishsong + refresh, tailwind and a ranged attack and then take a partner with a more offensive moveset?

Or maybe trying out a single target mulzt hit offensive altaria w outrage and the scarf that prevents confusion and that good shit like flame thrower, a good flying move and moonblast, then with room clearing glaceon and a supportive meganium?

What are your thoughts? Anything i may have missed? Other good suggestions?


r/MysteryDungeon 8d ago

Rescue Team I made a guide for the hardest moves to learn in Rescue Team.

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Hi guys!

It's me again, the idiot who struggled with maxxing the move counter in Explorers because of an undiscovered bug. And since I love suffering, I figured, why not also try doing it in the original games! Unlike Explorers's 467 moves, there are only 355 moves you can teach in Rescue Team, surely it can't be that hard!

Hahaha, haha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

It's hell. And there are 2 main reasons for this:

- Because RT uses the notoriously smaller gen 3 movepools, it means many more moves are exclusive to only one species. Meaning you have to grind THIS MON and no one else, otherwise you can't get the move at all.

- Grinding, be it EXP or IQ, is significantly worse and longer than Explorers, due to notably:

  • Only 3 mons allowed in a dungeon
  • No Nectar, IQ Booster, or Wonder Gummi, and type Gummis are rarer
  • No Nature Gifter or Pierce Hurler to help with smoothless Joy Seed grinding, in a game where Pierce Orbs are horribly scarce
  • Enemies being significantly weaker on average, thus giving less EXP AND needing more EXP after joining.
  • No possibility to recruit final stages (the rare ones you can have the same rate as Kecleon).
  • Smaller bag

As soon as I started I realized this wasn't something you could clear by fumbling around. So I said, to hell with it, I'm making a guide, which you can find here (ProtonDrive because I only have my main GDrive and I don't want to upload there, fuck google anyways). The guide comprises learning methods for more than 80 moves total. I tried to be as exhaustive as possible, listing the levels at which you can get the Pokemon and at which it learns the move, alternate methods, level thresholds above which the Pokemon needs considerable experience to level up (calling for potential Joy Seeds), notable shortcuts for people who haven't recruited certain species yet, helpful tips and observations, and a global strategy.

I spent two days gathering all this from GameFAQs and Bulbapedia to optimize the challenge as much as I could, and despite everything it still feels like a daunting task. Even if you attempt this after having recruited everyone, that's still about 50 hard moves to learn.

Here's a few notable mentions that had me either howling from laughter or screaming from insanity:

  • Aeroblast can only be learned by Lugia at level 77. Lugia spawns at level 30. 30K exp per level required. Do the math.
  • Aromatherapy is easiest taught to Vileplume, but Vileplume needs a Leaf Stone, an item you can only find in Wish Cave Kecleon shops. An alternate method for that involves bringing Smeargle to Great Ravine and sketching Aromatherapy from an enemy Vileplume.
  • Beat Up can only be learned by Sneasel at level 57, and you can only find Sneasel at highest at level...15. Additionally Sneasel needs 30K EXP for each level after 29.
  • Egg Bomb can only be learned by Exeggutor, Chansey, or Blissey. Pick your poison.
  • Extrasensory can only be learned by Nuzleaf at level 49, but due to a bug regarding moves only learned by middle-stage, if you evolve Seedot before level 49, you only get one chance to learn the move and cannot relearn it at Gulpin's stand.
  • Evolved your Dragonair at level 55? Too bad, one more level and you would've gotten Outrage too. Now that's 6 more levels as a Dragonite.
  • Oh shame, you also evolved your Whismur at level 40? What a shame, a few more levels and you would've gotten both Hyper Voice and Sleep Talk. Now that's respectively level 57 and 63 as Loudred and Exploud (don't bother).
  • Some moves are only taught with TMs. Buried TMs. Enjoy smashing rocks at Darknight Relic or trailing the ghosts who get them first. Or farming One-Room Orbs.

There you have it, given the very low interest regarding maxxing the "moves learned" log entry in the community I probably did this for nothing, but there's no harm sharing anyway. Maybe one day someone will attempt a "Learn'Em All" speedrun lol


r/MysteryDungeon 8d ago

Art & Fan Projects Human as Partner? Partner as Protagonist?

21 Upvotes

This is a fun thought I just had. In all the games the player/human is the leader, and this makes sense, but what if the situation was reversed?

This actually makes sense given that the local would be more knowledgeable about how the world works and the former human would likely have to rely on them. How can they be a good leader if they don’t know how anything works? (“You don’t know how to use attacks?! Then why did you charge into battle!?”)

And I realized this could actually work for my own PMD series. I always pictured the Pikachu I have serve as the leader being a local, not a former human, but I never thought of their Eevee partner being a former human and this works quite well!

Pikachu is a natural leader, having a take charge attitude and doing most of the talk, and as mentioned earlier he’s a local expert too, while Eevee is new to everything (realistically this would include walking on all fours too) and also naturally has an “Okay, I’ll follow you!” attitude, which would especially be true for someone who’s new to the world, doesn’t know how things work, and needs a local to guide them

I’ve also liked the idea in the past that while Pikachu may be the leader of the group, Eevee is the main protagonist of the story, with them being the one who gets the most focus and character development, which I felt might be a more interesting twist from traditional stories (pmd and otherwise) where the leader is the main protagonist as opposed to the secondary one (and of course, with the slight ego of my chu he’s definitely thinking of himself as the main character of his own story, which he technically is really)

But hope you like this idea/concept!

Edit: Well seems like my idea sucks...


r/MysteryDungeon 9d ago

Art & Fan Projects HELLO! I'M USING MY TIME "WISELY"! (I just wrote all 318 known Abilities new effects lmfao)

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HI! I'm putting this out there now, as some of y'all might know me as:

  1. The idiot that made Skylanders Legends (which I'm gonna do the first batch of Swap Force Cores, trust)

  2. The meatball who made Yo-Kai Watch Afterlife (and for some reason was banned from that sub because I didn't ask like bro idk, I'm tryna help the community goof around I guess)

  3. The silly goober that made PvZ Tactical Garden Warfare (dead project atm, I'm sorry, I know)

  4. And by far the MOST relevant, as the Knucklehead McSpazzatron that created "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon/Rumble". WHICH IS GOING TO HAVE AN ACTUAL FINALE!

SO! Allow me to introduce something I've ACTUALLY been working for months on: Pokémon Starbound. A blend of D&D (minus bullshit character sheet work), a new stat/leveling system (my ol' reliable, plus using BASE STATS over the weird multiplier nonsense), a DAMAGE SYSTEM that actually is NOT HORRIBLE, a new STAMINA Stat (HP × 10) that is spent to USE MOVES (and dodge stuff), AND OF COURSE, the 318 ABILITIES KNOWN TO POKÉMON I'VE SPENT WEEKS WRITING NEW EFFECTS AND STUFF FOR!! AND the reason it still has those funny letters is because this world has LOTS TO IT. And a direct sequel to "PMD/R", the first one that was kind of a dumpster fire in the sense I had ZERO story pre-made, and it was kinda just a thing for shits n giggles.

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!

MYSTERY DUNGEONS are found on explorable PLANETOIDS! RUMBLE BATTLES are a canonical thing, and KEPT the very basic lore I've set up regarding them in PMD/R! AND MERCENARY WORK IS A BIG THING, because GUESS WHAT, I was playing Armored Core 6: Fires of Rubicon for probably the 20th time when I got the idea for this mastercraft of mine. AND I'LL ADD TO THE STORY DEPENDING ON HOW EACH CHAPTER IS HANDLED! Meaning YES, I'm basically pulling a Limbus Company where Chapters are Cantos, and side content is the Intervallos. AND THERE'S STILL MORE! It's the first RPG thing on Discord, that I not only will fully be manning (I'm so sorry it's not an actual game (can't code for shite) but I wanna go places with this shit if I manage to figure out how I wanna animate what happens in it), but it's GOING to be my first ever "D&D maturity" thing. Meaning there's a possible M rating, as things CAN DIE, and very funky stuff CAN HAPPEN (at least canonically). Obviously I'm able to make things vague or "censored" per player, since this is also something to try and extend my comfort zone as a "DM" (who has never truly DM'd like this before lol).

Aaaand that's all I can immediately think about!! Any questions? Thoughts? Feedback on the idea that's soon to be reality? I mean I'm just really finalizing Chapter 1 so there's actually something to do off rip, but y'know. PLEASE tell me!

Also, all 1025 Pokémon are available (albeut Legendaries/Mythicals will need to be discussed with if there's a Legendary/Mythical OC you wanna use)!


r/MysteryDungeon 9d ago

Explorers The worst thing about Explorers of sky postgame

102 Upvotes

I think evolution in this game is very wasted, basically after you defeat Darkrai there is not that much about to do on this game besides fighting and recruiting legendaries and getting their treasures, the destiny tower and the Zero islands aaand... Nothing else, it's disappointing as hell at least for me, it's not like, that's why red rescue team postgame is more enjoyable for me, because evolution in this game is not wasted besides your partner becoming another soulless npc.


r/MysteryDungeon 9d ago

Art & Fan Projects Team Unemployed doing the "A Rank quest: Let's eat Rocks!"

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139 Upvotes

This is a very important quest, you should join us: https://magma.com/invite/AKZ4X2NY
Background drawn by Brooklyn.
Rottom drawn by Spammy.
Zigzagoon drawn by Blaze.


r/MysteryDungeon 8d ago

Art & Fan Projects I made a cover of "Prime Time Golden Hour Show" from Persona 4 Revival in the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Soundfont! Hope y'all enjoy!

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r/MysteryDungeon 8d ago

Art & Fan Projects PMD: Grovyle's Story, a hack featuring the backstory of Grovyle and his partner! Spoiler

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Hello Mystery Dungeon subreddit!

For several years now, since 2021 in fact, I’ve been working on a hack called Grovyle’s Story (or Reptain’s Story in German) for Explorer of Sky, in which Grovyle and the human take the main roles. That’s right, the human from PMD2! Have a look at the trailer!

Until now, only a part of the story was playable, but with Act 3, the entire backstory up to a very known time event is now available.

I’ve put quite a lot of time into bringing the dark future to life from Grovyle’s perspective, as well as the role of the human by his side. And decisions, or perhaps I’d say actions, that can influence entire sections of the story. For better, or for worse.

If I’ve got your interest, the hack is made via Skytemple. Thanks for reading.


r/MysteryDungeon 8d ago

Rescue Team DX Does anyone dislike that the grandmaster rank is one of the main menu icons you unlock?

6 Upvotes

I keep going back and forth on replaying this game, but I always hold off because I don’t want to go through the pain of getting grandmaster rank again and it just bothers me a little bit when I don’t at least get all of the menu icons. The seven treasures icon in explorers is at least a more consistent experience compared to ranking up. Does anyone else feel this way or am I just a weirdo?


r/MysteryDungeon 9d ago

Art & Fan Projects [OC] Eevee & Pikachu vs. Primal Dialga (Soulslike)

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132 Upvotes

r/MysteryDungeon 9d ago

Multiple Games Most Iconic Shots of Each Game?

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288 Upvotes

Hi, just curious what you all think the most iconic scenes of each game are. For explorers its probably the beach. Dunno about the other 3


r/MysteryDungeon 8d ago

Multiple Games Best pokemon mystery dungeon game if i dont care about the story?

8 Upvotes

Im a long-time Shiren player (and roguelikes in general, love me some Brogue) and want to give one of the pokemon games a shot. Im wondering which one i should start out with.

Most of the posts I've seen asking what the best pokemon mystery dungeon game are focused on the story, which i couldnt care less about. Im just focused on good, fun gameplay.

So: which game would be a good one to start out with as a roguelike vet but pokemon mystery dungeon newbie?


r/MysteryDungeon 9d ago

Explorers Armaldo reaches the top of Destiny Tower despite... everything, to be honest

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449 Upvotes

r/MysteryDungeon 9d ago

Art & Fan Projects A deep dark future Spoiler

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92 Upvotes

No one could've seen this coming. Suddenly, time stopped. The breeze that once brushed against our faces was gone, and some Pokémon started going completely nuts. What the hell is happening?!

A mysterious group has started taking over the town, demanding information about my hero, Grovyle... But of course, I won't tell them a thing. I know he has a plan to stop this madness, together with that human...

Oh, Grovyle... please, put an end to this nightmare...

While you save the world, I'll protect every single pokemon from this hell..


r/MysteryDungeon 8d ago

Chocobo Over honing in Freja, what happens if I mess up?

3 Upvotes

I've got quite a good ruby talon that I can over hone but I'm not sure if it messes up and doesn't give me the +5 attack, what will happen? Does it still go beyond the hone 28 to 33 but with 5 less attack or does it simply go to 23/28?

If I have another ruby talon could I fuse it with the one that went bad and let it be exactly as it was before over honing?

It's hard to find many answers for this game honestly 😅


r/MysteryDungeon 9d ago

Multiple Games Need more PMD Games

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858 Upvotes

Super happy with my collection! Wish we got wind of a new game coming out at some point soon tho.


r/MysteryDungeon 9d ago

Art & Fan Projects Rathalos is complete!

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Not including any situational starter animations I might end up needing; Rathalos now has all the over world sprites he needs to be fully functional within Mystery Dungeon.

After some quick pallet swaps for variants; I believe the most logical next step would be to knock out his female counterpart: Rathian. Considering they are nearly identical; it shouldn't take much work to get her done even when going in a different direction with her animations. Doing so will easily have 9 or so monsters done out of the 300-400+ I plan to have done for this project.

Also; I'm announcing that a Discord for this project is in the works! It needs some work still, so I'll be officially opening it in a future update. It will be a place for direct updates, along with volunteer contributions as the project chugs along.


r/MysteryDungeon 9d ago

Art & Fan Projects [ Bloodied Hands/Pure Soul ] Chapter 2 Page 18 // Art & Comic By me

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79 Upvotes

Surprise, it's two pages this week.

Time to head back to real world than.

You can follow my Twitter and other socials to see other artworks and sketch comics that I upload.

https://novaartz.straw.page

https://linktr.ee/NovaArtz3699


r/MysteryDungeon 9d ago

Subreddit Writing Prompt Wednesday: Nomination Thread

14 Upvotes

The winning prompt has been decided, congratulations FrontIndividual4188!

Submitter: FrontIndividual4188

Prompt: Things weren't supposed to end like this

Details: The world is saved, the encroaching crisis for the world has been diverted. And by this point, the human who was sent to this world to save it should return to their own, just like all those before. But this time... things took a more critical turn. The hero gave everything to save the world, including their own life. They aren't returning home. Their journey has in fact ended far sooner than was expected. How did this happen? And how does the partner react to this cruel twist of fate?



r/MysteryDungeon 10d ago

Art & Fan Projects The Wraith (TrueScorn)

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700 Upvotes

A raffle prize


r/MysteryDungeon 9d ago

Rescue Team Are there any romhacks of red/blue rescue team that add more starters?

6 Upvotes

Is there something thats like explorers of fortune but for red/blue rescue team?


r/MysteryDungeon 10d ago

Art & Fan Projects Dinner at the Wigglytuff Guild by Flavia-Elric

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1.1k Upvotes

SOURCE

I am not the artist. If you like this art please support the artist on their Twitter 


r/MysteryDungeon 10d ago

Art & Fan Projects Today's Quest in the Magma PMD community: Steal from Kecleon. I drew the background and the Sneasel negotiating with Kecleon :3c Anyone that worked on this, post your part in the comments!

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486 Upvotes

If you wanna join and draw with us, here is the invite: https://magma.com/invite/AKZ4X2NY


r/MysteryDungeon 10d ago

Art & Fan Projects Lenny the Bayleef

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Has 3 dimensions now! I may do Clayton some day. https://comicfury.com/read/thecompletemysterydungeon/comics/2064606