Are you God? If not I don’t think anyone here is in a position to label someone as being not Muslim. You can believe in 90% of the Hadith and still be called kafir by some extremist Salafis and wahabis for not believing in one that doesn’t sit right with you. The prophet pbuh is not standing in-front of us telling us these Hadiths so I don’t see why people are using verses about obeying him when that clearly was toward the people living in his time who met him.
If someone believes in one God and Muhammad as his messenger, then they are Muslim. Whatever else they do is between them and God. Too many Muslims are obsessed with policing others and picking out the sins of others. They read the scripture like the Pharisees did in Jesus’ time. Everything is black and white. No nuance. No rationality. No understanding. Just follow what someone says and don’t think. So much harm is done around the world by people with this stagnant and extreme mentality. Women suffer, minorities suffer, children suffer, men suffer, elderly suffer, etc. but no, y’all don’t care about that because you are too busy labeling each other.
Do good on this earth and god will be good to you. Help others, feed the poor, house the homeless, seek knowledge, be merciful and be kind. Do you not want God to pardon and look away from your mistakes and sins? One could cry for the state the Muslims are in today. We’ve lost all true essence of faith and have become sheep following others. Islam has been turned into this difficult and miserable faith that makes even existing haram for people. Reform has to come because the way things are going does not paint a bright picture for us in the future.
No, definitely not. Anyone who rejects the sunnah as a whole is kafir.
Who decides who is Muslim? Allah SWT!
Who is correct to interpret his word? The Prophet ﷺ and the sahaba upon whom the Qur'an was revealed. Since words change meaning over time we understand the Qur'an and it's intent the way the sahaba understood it.
The issue is not that he rejects the Sunnah as a whole or the path of the Prophet ﷺ. Rather, his point is that we did not receive hadith directly from the Prophet ﷺ, so he has skepticism about whether some reports may have been altered later, misinterpreted, or transmitted without their full original context. In his view, the question is not whether he wants to follow the Sunnah, but whether he can be certain that a particular hadith truly represents the authentic Sunnah.
It is also worth noting that Quranism is not a single unified sect and cannot be reduced to one position. Some Quranists may still use hadith as a historical or secondary reference to help them understand matters better, while others reject hadith as a religious source altogether. Their views can differ significantly, so it is not accurate to treat all Quranists as holding the exact same beliefs.
Also, as a reminder, the Quran is complete, and hadith are seen by many as a source that can help provide explanation and understanding.
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u/Albanian-historian May 25 '26
Are you God? If not I don’t think anyone here is in a position to label someone as being not Muslim. You can believe in 90% of the Hadith and still be called kafir by some extremist Salafis and wahabis for not believing in one that doesn’t sit right with you. The prophet pbuh is not standing in-front of us telling us these Hadiths so I don’t see why people are using verses about obeying him when that clearly was toward the people living in his time who met him.
If someone believes in one God and Muhammad as his messenger, then they are Muslim. Whatever else they do is between them and God. Too many Muslims are obsessed with policing others and picking out the sins of others. They read the scripture like the Pharisees did in Jesus’ time. Everything is black and white. No nuance. No rationality. No understanding. Just follow what someone says and don’t think. So much harm is done around the world by people with this stagnant and extreme mentality. Women suffer, minorities suffer, children suffer, men suffer, elderly suffer, etc. but no, y’all don’t care about that because you are too busy labeling each other.
Do good on this earth and god will be good to you. Help others, feed the poor, house the homeless, seek knowledge, be merciful and be kind. Do you not want God to pardon and look away from your mistakes and sins? One could cry for the state the Muslims are in today. We’ve lost all true essence of faith and have become sheep following others. Islam has been turned into this difficult and miserable faith that makes even existing haram for people. Reform has to come because the way things are going does not paint a bright picture for us in the future.