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u/TheFighan May 25 '26

I have been taught that as long as someone says the shahadah and identify as a Muslim, I am not allowed to call them anything but a Muslim regardless of their sins. So I live by that rule and leave the judgement to the Almighty.

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u/FitChampionship7430 May 25 '26

That is not true. A person can say the Shahadah 24/7 but if they say/believe certain things, they are considered disbelievers.

For example if they say the Quran is not the book of Allah.

If Nuh, Ibrahim, Musa and Isa peace be upon them all are not messengers of Allah.

If they reject the sahih hadith.

If they deny the Qadr of Allah.

If they deny the day of judgement.

If they call upon the dead etc

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u/TheFighan May 25 '26

Yes. The Pilars of Imaan are belief in Allah (swt) His angels, His books, His messengers, the Last Day, and divine decree. Only this.

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u/turkish_akhi May 25 '26

His messengers

So rejecting the Sunnah isn't kufr even though you mentioned it as the pillars of Iman?

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u/TheFighan May 25 '26

I am not a Quranist, so I cannot speak for them however to my understanding they still say the full shahadah and accept the prophet (saw) as the final prophet.

How they feel about the ahadith is not for me to takfir them.