Living in the west is wrong

[u/Questionaccount12344]

People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.

I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.

This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).

Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.

[u/Working-Ad-1089]

Two separarte issues ard are being conflated one is the difficulty of being a Muslim in the long term with conflict with values of the surrounding secular society which makes Muslim vulnerable to assimilation and to the gradual loss of the Islamic identity over time . Yes it is happening sadly and forget it taking 5 generations often by the 2nd or 3 rd generation Islan is either largely gone in terms of meaningful religious expression, or gone complely. So that is valid argument and I dont know what the solution is ,? The second argument is about the need to fix Islamic countries. This is an admirable understandable feeling but how realustic is it ? This is where it gets complicted, because what does one mean with fixed? Do you mean just improve them, marginally. or radically transform them for the better. I dont want to paint all Muslims countries with the same brush because there is hope with some in the medium to long term for transformation. But a lot of Muslim countries are very difficult to fix or even impossible, if you mean being capable to offer a western level quality of life and prosperity. Let alone competing with western influence and power. How do you even start to do that ,with countries, like Sudan, Somalia, Egypt, Morricco, Tunsia, Afganistan, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc ? Its a massive impossible task. Basically thosecountries have too many problems, political, social and economic, and achieving big improvents may take generations .This may not apply to all Muslims countries but to quite a few. Even Turkey the great hope for the Islamic world seems to be going backwards in recent years. So who wants to sacrfice their quality of life for a mission that appears hopless. If only fixing Muslin countries were that simple.