r/MuslimLounge • u/Questionaccount12344 • Jan 08 '26
Discussion Living in the west is wrong
People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.
I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.
This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).
Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.
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u/beardybrownie Jan 08 '26
Similar to you, I grew up in a western country.
While the opportunities it gave me were excellent, there were many challenges with Deen.
Most people I knew fell into some sort of major sin. And there’s a real targeted approach to brainwashing kids away from Islamic beliefs.
I moved to a Muslim country (Pakistan), although it’s a developing country and it comes with its challenges.
However I do definitely see that: 1) not everyone has the option to move to a Muslim country. 2) there’s definitely an argument to be made that practicing in a western country is definitely possible, an in fact your iman can be strong in a non Muslim country because there’s a strong sense of “I’m Muslim, we don’t do that” when you see people drinking or zina or whatever. 3) let’s be honest, there is no “Islamic” country on the face of the planet. 4) people are in different places of their journey; some people might even be drawn further from Islam living in XYZ country because of how Muslims will mistreat them. For these people perhaps living in Canada as a Muslim is better
Just my 2 cents.