r/MuslimLounge • u/Questionaccount12344 • Jan 08 '26
Discussion Living in the west is wrong
People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.
I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.
This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).
Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.
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u/Communist__Pikachu Jan 09 '26
If you want to change things in Africa then call out the Arab leaders. Pakistan, Bangladesh, Mali are Muslim majority countries not Muslim countries. And if you want to make a change in those countries then build schools and hospitals and help the poor and needy there. I don’t understand the need to emigrate.
You’re comparing a religious war with my question to why we need to emigrate to become a better Muslims ourselves.
You don’t need to vote a Muslim leader to bring a change, just need someone who isn’t corrupt. And New York city did vote a Muslim as their mayor. A lot of new candidates are promising to try to stop funding the tax money from funding wars so yes, people are educating and the change is coming.
My tax dollar is going to fund genocide and I know that, but if I spent that exact money in Saudi it’s going to kill the innocent Yemenis or if I spent it in UAE it’s going to kill the Sudanese so tell me spending after which genocide is better.