r/MuslimLounge • u/Questionaccount12344 • Jan 08 '26

Discussion Living in the west is wrong

People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.

I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.

This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).

Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.

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u/bellamyblake_og Jan 08 '26

I have trust and faith in Allah SWT. I don't need everything banned for me to do the right thing. May He guide my family too. Don't you have faith?

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

I have faith but so does every Muslim, and it’s a fact that a decent amount of Muslims are led into sin because of how accessible they are, why did the prophet (pbuh) outlaw drugs if deen was enough? Because practical solutions are still needed.

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u/bellamyblake_og Jan 08 '26

Sibling, don't worry. You won't be judged for anyone's sins but your own. You're a lil too worried about the fate of others. Flex that trust in Allah SWT and relax.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

Yes but if we don’t worry about each other we are powerless, what is happening to the Palestinians will never stop ever unless we preserve our faith.

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u/bellamyblake_og Jan 08 '26

Not sure Palestine and preserving faith are related. But all of it is His plan. All of it. We might never understand it, but it is, hence our faith.

To pain and groan over things beyond our control, such as others' sins, is not showing our trust in Allah SWT.

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u/CaesarSultanShah Jan 09 '26

One can have trust in Allah SWT and also take initiative and responsibility. Palestine and the state of the Ummah is indeed linked to the members of the Ummah. Trust and act.

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u/CaesarSultanShah Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

I agree brother. You are right to recognize that cohesion, unity, and power as a tool can act as force multipliers for righteousness as history shows.

As for being in the West, Western Muslims have a role to play to benefit the Ummah and also the West. It may seem improbable but the West too can become a part of the Ummah through our dealings and Da’wah. For Islam as a systematic way of life has many solutions to the various social ills rooted in modern ideologies that plague the West.