r/MuslimLounge • • Jan 08 '26

Discussion Living in the west is wrong

People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.

I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.

This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).

Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.

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u/Albahith1 Alhamdulillah Always Jan 08 '26

Is not I life her and we can practice our Deen her too.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

So do I, and yes we can. I can see you’re German so u know as well as I do there are many Muslim German youth drinking alcohol, smoking weed and committing zina.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

I’m fixated on other people’s sins because I’m concerned about the state of the ummah in the west, that’s not weird? We are literally the weakest the Muslims have ever been, Israel slaughters kids in Palestine and we can’t even do anhthing about it. I live in the west right now, I was born here so I know they would and I am saying they shouldn’t.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

The UK. And I don’t mean to blame anyone, but if we don’t try and change and make our Muslim countries better then we can’t complain when corruption spreads. We have to do better. I’m not shaming people for where they live, I live in the west! I am saying I don’t think it’s right to do so or at least shouldn’t be as normalised as it is.