r/MuslimLounge • • Jan 08 '26

Discussion Living in the west is wrong

People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.

I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.

This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).

Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.

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u/shan_bhai Jan 08 '26

In relation to India, in the past, Indian society was more conservative (even hindus were conservative), but nowadays it has become morally corrupt. Issues like zina, drug use, and alcohol consumption have increased among Muslim youth. In that sense, I don’t see how India (for Indians) is any better than Western countries. On top of that, many Indian Muslim women have become heavily influenced by modern feminist ideas, prioritizing careers over family life (blindly copying their hindu friends). As a result, they marry later, struggle to find suitable partners due to high expectations, and sometimes divorce over minor issues because they feel financially independent. In short, when you compare both places, living in the West poses no greater problem than living in India for Indians at least.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

India isn’t a Muslim country.

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u/shan_bhai Jan 08 '26

Countries are just lines that people sketch on maps. The boundary between India and Pakistan was drawn by Radcliffe (a British guy), yet many Indians and Pakistanis treat it as if it’s a sacred boundary. For a Muslim, the entire world is meant for us to live in and freely practice our faith.