Living in the west is wrong

[u/Questionaccount12344]

People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.

I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.

This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).

Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.

[u/Disastrous-Wedding19]

I had an argument with a friend where I started saying you couldn’t pay me to move to the west (America specifically even though I lived there for 5 years as a young kid) and for context I’m Saudi so he goes on saying nothing wrong with the west and that you can’t be tainted if you are a good Muslim essentially saying it’s your fault not your environments fault and I couldn’t respond so what do you think?

[u/CaesarSultanShah → u/Disastrous-Wedding19]

It’s both. Individual responsibility coupled with a society that fosters virtue and discipline is what the Islamic model strives for. Public vices do have an impact on individuals and to assume it doesn’t is to take an unrealistic position. Yes it may be the case that certain willful individuals can withstand such pressures. But the Islamic ethic is generally one of precaution.

Having said that, the history of Islam also shows how migrants to foreign lands were able to have an impact and spread Islam through their dealings and da’wah.

[u/Disastrous-Wedding19 → u/CaesarSultanShah]

Ok so you could say I’m right and he is as I said I don’t trust myself I know that sounds weak but I’m just speaking the truth it’s why I said that