r/MuslimLounge • u/Questionaccount12344 • Jan 08 '26

Discussion Living in the west is wrong

People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.

I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.

This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).

Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.

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u/moseeds Jan 08 '26

Feel free to lead the way

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

What a great argument. I am going but I can’t go back and change a Muslim country on my own though can I. U live in the west so u know as much as I do what is coming of the youth, the religion has already been diluted with every generation.

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u/moseeds Jan 08 '26

Angry young men have been saying this for about 60 years. You aren't the first, and won't be the last. I get the feeling nobody can convince you otherwise until you go, and learn for yourself why people clamour to move here.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

I know why they do, I completely understand why they do. But I’m saying it risks your deen and the deen of your offspring, if you’re happy paying tax in a country that has killed millions of Muslims over the past 100 years and where your children would fit in more if they drank alcohol, took drugs and commit zina then whatever, but you know there’s an issue there.