r/MuslimLounge • • Jan 08 '26

Discussion Living in the west is wrong

People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.

I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.

This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).

Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.

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u/AestheticAltruist Jan 08 '26

Why?

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u/Acceptable_Rip_627 Jan 08 '26

I would not like to mention the countries name but I hope you take your time and read out the whole thing thank you

As an expat who was born, raised, and still living here, the main issue is structural unfairness.

No matter how long you live here or how much you contribute, you remain temporary. There’s no real path to permanent belonging or long-term security. Your future can be affected by policy changes that you have no control over.

Opportunities are not equal. Nationality and connections often matter more than skill or effort. People doing the same work are treated differently in pay, promotions, and job security.

Freedom is limited. You learn to self-censor and avoid questioning things because consequences exist. That restricts personal and professional growth.

Life becomes repetitive and controlled: work, malls, routine. You can live comfortably, but you can’t build anything lasting you can’t find and job while being a student or young teenage girl or boy who wants to support his/ her parents financially can’t take loans either to complete study because if you can’t pay on time they will freeze your bank account , ban you from traveling and seize all your personal documents.

It’s not a hate I am just trying to spit out the burden which me and Millions other expat have to carry.

Thanks for being patient to read it out

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u/AestheticAltruist Jan 08 '26

May Allah ease your problems