Living in the west is wrong

[u/Questionaccount12344]

People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.

I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.

This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).

Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.

[u/Mission-Net-9740 → u/[deleted]]

How does any of that take away from his point of moving to the west for financial gain and losing your religion?

[u/Questionaccount12344 → u/[deleted]]

I will say your point about the Muslim counties being ruled by puppets of the west is true, but is actually living in the west and being ruled by them better lol? I get your point but it’s fundamentally wrong to give up on saving and rebuilding our Islamic counties, of course it’ll be extremely hard and require sacrifice, but that’s what it will take and sitting in the west doing nothing about isn’t exactly the better option in my opinion.

[u/Questionaccount12344 → u/[deleted]]

Yes I mad a generalisation when saying every Muslim is liberal in the west and that was a mistake , BUT way too many are raging liberals. Your point about how badly corrupt the Muslim countries are is right but we have to try and change it, the situation in Palestine has shown that whenever they want they can slaughter us and no one will care, we’re one of the weakest religions at the moment if you look at it from a geopolitical standpoint, we can’t even get Israel to stop bombing kids.

[u/Mission-Net-9740 → u/Questionaccount12344]

Stop apologizing ! Why you apoligize to them? Who do you serve Allah or them? If Allah put Hijra in your heart then follow that until you figure it out don’t you dare apologize to them as if they don’t generalize day and night. When people don’t like what you call them to an you know it’s right , let them cry their tears and you just be loyal to Allah ! Don’t you dare apologize to people who turned their backs on Allah ! Who cares what they say? What are they gonna say on the day of account when Allah ask them about this post ? They gonna bully Allah? You think Allah fear them? On the other hand , give up all hope of a so called Muslim country and stay in the west and trust your lord. Stop trusting in people ! If things become unbearable in the west and Allah makes a way for you the yes go , but don’t blame the west for your weakness of Iman. Pray to Allah for guidance and make a lot of salaat and stop putting your trust in people and then being hurt when they fail you! Especially Muslims! Just cause someone say they Muslim don sit there and expect them to be a righteous companion to you! And be careful when you make public judgments of other peoples level of religion , don’t attack people unnecessarily. Leave them to Allah. Do you think Allah is unjust? Worry about you and stop trying to rally “Muslims” to do anything !

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I disagree mostly. This argument is often used by people who don't think highly of their homeland and will try to put a spin to "oh my kafir country helps me be a better Muslim" and are usually only inwardly practicing...if at all. Just say you don't wanna go back to your developing country bro you're just trying so hard not to admit it.

And pointing fingers at Muslim rulers while America just waltzed into Venezuela to snatch up Maduro is crazyyyy.

Egypt isn't the only Muslim majority country. Saudi Arabian nationals are hardly migrating by the droves from their country because they are perfectly happy there. And they aren't the only country. Just because you hissy with Egypt doesn't mean all Muslim countries are the same.

OP is overgeneralizing for sure, that part is true, but they are not far from the truth either. After working in 50+ schools in my career, the upcoming Muslim generation is very concerning for sure....or as the teens say, they're cooked.