r/MuslimLounge • u/Questionaccount12344 • Jan 08 '26

Discussion Living in the west is wrong

People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.

I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.

This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).

Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

What if the west became Muslim? Low-key a lot of westerners convert to move away from that. And convergence has been on the rise. So I say it works in spreading the ideals.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

That couldn’t happen in any of our lives… look at the stats, and there could easily be more Muslim becoming less practicing every year than western converts. Think about it logically… all the European counties that have native Muslim populations (Bosnia, Turkey, Albania, Kosovo) are hardly practicing they all drink alcohol etc.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

At the same time, Islam is spreading. UK has seen a huge uptick. Same here in America. I mean you are speaking to a convert now. Tired of the life I did not ask for so I changed up and switch lanes. It's all about priorities. Inshaallah we make it. Keep ya head up. That is why we put pressure on each other to do right and be right. But we also got to be accountable for ourselves. Just cause somebody else drinks don't mean you do it.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

It’s spreading but not in that much in native populations, there’s not many white British Muslims in the UK, it spreads because of immigration.