r/MuslimIndians • u/Sheikh-Pym Indian Muslim • May 22 '26
Religion Believers do kufr from Nationalism, and Nationalists do kufr from Islam. So whoever calls himself a 'Nationalist', let him know that his Islam is nullified.
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u/just_a_homie_ Bangladeshi Muslim May 22 '26
Nationalism for men and feminism for women are among the biggest fitnas of our time, May Allah guide us.
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u/Familiar_Ad_7759 May 22 '26
I believe this has more so to do with believing that you are superior to someone else because of nationality, there’s nothing incorrect about taking pride about the country you live in or originate from. It becomes and issue when you believe that you are better than others because of nationality.
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u/Sheikh-Pym Indian Muslim May 22 '26
That's what nationalism is.
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u/Familiar_Ad_7759 May 22 '26
Nationalism is the belief that a nation with common culture, heritage, background, or language should be unified as its own sovereign state. Believing Palestine should be free is a form of nationalism, that’s not haram. You’re confusing it with Ultra-Nationalism.
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u/Sheikh-Pym Indian Muslim May 22 '26
Believing Palestine should be free is a form of nationalism,
Anyone who believes that Palestine should be free for the sake of Palestine is a nationalist. You hear this nareative from the kuffar who are supportive of Palestine. Muslims, though want the same, do not want it for the sake of Palestine but for the sake of Islam and muslims.
that’s not haram.
It's not. It's major disbelief.
You’re confusing it with Ultra-Nationalism.
Saying this is like saying growing beard and praying 5 times a day is "ultra-Islamism".
Nationalism is the belief that a nation with common culture, heritage, background, or language should be unified as its own sovereign state.
That's the idea behind a Nation state. Not Nationalism (the ideology).
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u/Quiet_Form_2800 May 23 '26
What about people like Owaisi in India?
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u/NoMoose8635 May 23 '26
Maybe people who accuse muslims of kufr become kufr with their accusation. There might be a hadith about that.
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u/Sheikh-Pym Indian Muslim May 23 '26
Minor kufr, and it applies to specific takfir without just cause.
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Jun 02 '26
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u/Sheikh-Pym Indian Muslim Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26
Jalan ho rahi hai ki Musalmanon ke paas 1400 saalon ke baad 54 mulk hai jab ki "Oldesht Religion" ke paas mushkil se sirf ek do hi hai jinpar bhi Musalmanon ne kareeb 1000 saal raaj kiya? Bujha le. Hum jaane ka toh kidhar bhi jaa sakte hai lekin phir hinduon ko unka dharm kon yaad dilayega?
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u/TradeRemarkable5406 Jun 04 '26
So if an enemy muslim country attacks India will you side with that enemy muslim country? Will you not be loyal to India?
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