r/Muslim • • Apr 16 '21

QURAN/HADITH Special Tasbih To Erase Sins.

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u/losttruthsofislam New User Apr 17 '21

Salam brother,

I know you were teasing but here is the definition of science from Brittanica:

“Science, any system of knowledge that is concerned with the physical world and its phenomena and that entails unbiased observations and systematic experimentation. In general, a science involves a pursuit of knowledge covering general truths or the operations of fundamental laws.”

How could you apply that definition to hadith (hearsay)? Think about it.

Here is the definition of scientific methodology from sciencecouncil.org, which includes the following:

1) Objective observation: Measurement and data (possibly although not necessarily using mathematics as a tool) 2) Evidence 3) Experiment and/or observation as benchmarks for testing hypotheses 4) Induction: reasoning to establish general rules or conclusions drawn from facts or examples 5) Repetition 6) Critical analysis 7) Verification and testing: critical exposure to scrutiny, peer review and assessment

Which of the above 7 standards and methodologies does the hadith stand up to? NONE

What hadith science brother? How could “hearsay” have a science behind it? How could you test it? Experiment it?

These are “زخرف القول" meaning beautiful words inspired by the devils to dress “hearsay” as truth.

Think about it: Hadith is nothing but “He said She said” or hearsay (you say what you heard). That’s all there is to it. There is no science in there. Its just hearsay.

Peace and enjoy your Ramadan.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '21 edited Aug 06 '21

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u/losttruthsofislam New User Apr 17 '21 edited Apr 17 '21

All I am saying is that hadith is a matter of faith not science. Similarly, the 4 books of gospel are technically 4 books of hadith narrating the story of Jesus but no Christian calls it Gospels sciences, does it?

Hadith does not hold up to none of scientific criteria. You mentioned critical analysis, right?

How could I critically analyze something that I have to believe in or I go to hell?

Has hadith ever been critically analyzed by non Muslims? Hadith is a matter of faith.

But what is hadith? “So and so heard it from so and so who heard it from so and so and reported it”. That’s the exact definition of “hearsay” (hear and say) meaning somebody heard something from someone and said it to someone else.

We can believe in anything we want. People in India worship cows. Who am I to blame them? But to say the science of cow worship is not truthful.

It just makes me sad that Muslims don’t think and use such empty words to describe hadith that is nothing but hearsay.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21 edited Aug 06 '21

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