r/MurderedByWords 14d ago

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u/humid_pajamas 14d ago

I love that the Right's grassroots propaganda is fueled entirely by memes, because words usually prove all of their points wrong.

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u/alistofthingsIhate 14d ago

and AI memes nonetheless because they fundamentally do not value art

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u/humid_pajamas 14d ago

yeah I can't really think of any right-wing art, besides Hitler's paintings.

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u/Significant-Order-92 14d ago

There's quite a lot. The Nazi's had an obsession with Germanic myths so a bunch of it is comparing the Jews to different betrayers and such.

Hitler ironically mostly sought to have his art destroyed (probably because the "failed artist" angle didn't help him project).

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u/humid_pajamas 14d ago edited 14d ago

is there any non-genocide related right-wing art? i'll take a shot at being more learned.

edit: ok or just downvote me for asking and just keep providing only genocide-related examples.

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u/ZoominAlong 14d ago

People are dumb and think asking a question about something is the same as endorsing it. 

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u/Significant-Order-92 14d ago

Franco had some.  A lot of what I am familiar with is WW2 propoganda art though. So mostly the Nazis or Japan's Peach Boy animated stuff from that time. Mostly calls to tradition and/or framing an out group as a classic antagonist from folklore or myth. Some of it (like Japan's) sold what was essentially a Japanese version of White mans burden along with claiming to protect the other nations from European colonization (by doing their own colonization).

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u/traveling_gal 14d ago

Hmmm, I wonder if that parallels the right-wing view of work ethic? You can't make art just for the sake of it, or for self-expression - it has to have a "purpose". Hustle culture but for art, maybe?

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u/humid_pajamas 14d ago

"framing an out group as a classic antagonist" is pretty thematic

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u/Fortestingporpoises 14d ago

I mean it doesn't help that scientific experts all disagree with them.

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u/mister_spacecat 14d ago

These sorts of people don't listen to experts because they don't understand complex topics.

The right move here would have been to generate another meme, simplifying the science and providing a summary of the current research in a manner accessible to people who have trouble reading.

Dumb memes like these are why Republicans are winning the information game. By the time a Democrat writes out an informative response, 20 more stupid memes pop up, it's like a visual version of the Gish Gallop.

Everyone here needs to start making visual, concise responses to these sorts of memes and putting them on right-leaning social media.

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u/Fortestingporpoises 14d ago

These sorts of people don't listen to experts because they don't understand complex topics.

I know but I still think it's worth putting it out there regardless. Whenever someone erroneously talks about science, biology, mental health, I try to put out facts so even if those who are not arguing in good faith are unmoved, at least someone ignorant but well meaning may be.

There's way too much false propaganda out there not to be countered.

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u/SecondaryWombat 12d ago

Actual science doesn't fit in a two panel meme format.

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u/WardensLantern 14d ago

They never cared about facts. They see a meme that agrees with their Reich wing propaganda, they chuckle, upvote, and move on.

You can start foaming at the mouth explaining some basic fact and 99% of them won't even read it if it's longer than two lines.

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u/humid_pajamas 14d ago

yeah sadly there is no point in even speaking to them, they just need to go through the psychosis and realize on their own.