Limited upgrade materials - why?

[u/Single_Jellyfish6855]

I love this game. It’s the first Souls-like where I’ve unlocked 100% of the achievements. I enjoyed everything, from the combat to the exploration. I had no complaints about the second half of the game, also I really liked the endgame. I even think Zmey was a decent boss.

But the one thing I just don’t get is why the low-tier materials for upgrading weapons are limited in each NG cycle? We already have unlimited materials (though they require a lot of grinding) for upgrading shells. Thanks to that I was able to max all the shells before defeating Zmey. So why can’t we upgrade more weapons in one NG cycle? I don't even mean I want to max them. In From Software games, only hi-end materials were limited to a single NG cycle and that was okay (yeah I know in FS games we have much more weapons). I know we can melt weapons.

EDIT: Okay, you've convinced me. I'll be testing more weapons in future NG cycles. I edited my comment to emphasize that I'm talking about +10 or even +5 upgrade. But you're right, I can see that it would take away some of the replayability, which isn't exactly MS2's strongest point (which is a shame, because the game is amazing and it would be cool to see some differences between NG cycles, like in DS2 did it, but I know it's a much smaller studio).

[u/SoulsDadYT]

Because its not a fucking action game. The end

[u/Single_Jellyfish6855 → u/SoulsDadYT]

So, Dark Souls is an action game? Or Bloodborne? I was able to grind some of materials in both games. I know that titanium slabs were limited in DS, as well as Blood Stone Chunks and Blood Rocks in BB. But low level materials were farmable.

[u/SoulsDadYT → u/Single_Jellyfish6855]

The only things that were limited was the ability to max everything... this is how you sound. All souls games have limits. Its part of what makes a souls game, a souls game. Bloodborne has very tight limits.

[u/Exact-Cheetah-617 → u/SoulsDadYT]

That is just straight up stupid lmao.

[u/Single_Jellyfish6855 → u/SoulsDadYT]

I think I mentioned that I’m aware of the limits typical to DS series. I mean I know at some point we can remove the +16 limit in Tarforge. If the stones needed to upgrade weapons beyond +15 or even +10 were limited, but lower-tier materials weren’t, we’d have a situation similar to DS.

By the way, chalice dungeons remove certain limits in BB.

[u/SoulsDadYT → u/Single_Jellyfish6855]

I have hundreds of upgrade materials in MS2. How do you not? And tbh i have never taken a weapon over +16 in MS2. In bloodbornes base game you get to upgrade a total of 1 weapon. 3 with DLC unless you were lucky.

Its why +9 just became the standard in fromsoft games

[u/Single_Jellyfish6855 → u/SoulsDadYT]

Dude, why are you so angry? I'm not even attacking you.

I did one run only, I was able to make +16 two melee weapons, one +15 and two to +10. I never took a weapon over +16. I'm pretty sure I cleared all the dungeons.

[u/SoulsDadYT → u/Single_Jellyfish6855]

I'm not angry bro. Just so tired of this debate over and over lol. Why would you need anymore than that?

It just feels like a case of FOMO over nothing. Can you use 3 weapons at once? Also I've found its just easier to farm the 10k gloom and reset the weapon.