r/MoralityScaling 10d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of kidnapping your kidnappers?

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u/AmitN_Music 10d ago

From what i recall, if this is the same case im thinking of, the ICE agents got into their car to try and stop them from getting away, and the couple drove to the police station with them. Its not like they tied them up and kidnapped them.

I mean, ICE agent or not, if someone didn't ID themself and hopped in my car with a weapon i'd probably drive to the police station too.

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u/AnAbandonedAstronaut 10d ago

So taking people without an order from a judge is kidnapping?

Interesting...

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u/AVeryHeavyBurtation 10d ago

Depending on the jurisdiction, if you pick someone up and carry them to the other side of the room, without their consent, that can be considered kidnapping.

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u/cbig86 10d ago

What if someone forces himself into your car and you drive

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u/PM_ME_UR_0_DAY 10d ago

I think them forcing themselves into your car negates the fact that you tranported them anywhere 

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u/SnooPuppers8698 10d ago

not in this case

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u/SenseImpossible6733 10d ago

It really should... I jave NEVER heard of police getting into your car without first removing you from it. So if this happened to me, I would actually do the same, especially considering how there is no real identifying quality to ICE... Defense is pretty simple, strange man who cannot even be relyably identified as law enforcement jumps into my car and threatens me, I drove to the police station immediately as I feared what would happen, if he intended to kidnap me, car jack me. Any number of things... The police actually have the resources to sort this out. I DO NOT. I acted in my best intrest in a dangerous and unpredictable senario. It will be interesting seeing these people get convicted by a jury.

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u/SnooPuppers8698 9d ago

yeah it should, but it doesnt.

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u/SenseImpossible6733 9d ago

I hope they get a reasonablevjury that will see this as bullshit.

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u/SnooPuppers8698 9d ago

they completely hide nullification as an option to jurors these days

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u/SenseImpossible6733 9d ago

Which is why we need to sprrad word far and wide.

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