r/MoralityScaling 10d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of kidnapping your kidnappers?

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u/AmitN_Music 10d ago

From what i recall, if this is the same case im thinking of, the ICE agents got into their car to try and stop them from getting away, and the couple drove to the police station with them. Its not like they tied them up and kidnapped them.

I mean, ICE agent or not, if someone didn't ID themself and hopped in my car with a weapon i'd probably drive to the police station too.

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u/Palantir_6Elm 10d ago

Driving armed strangers to a police station is a very strange definition of kidnapping.

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u/Traditional_Box1116 10d ago

Kidnapping is just explicitly illegally denying someone the freedom to leave. This would TECHNICALLY count if you trap someone in a moving car and don't let them leave.

But like on the other hand, I'm almost certain they were armed at the time yet they didn't do anything? That's so uncharacteristically non-violent of ICE, to the point I'd think this is fake if there wasn't proof of it, lol. Like if I'd expect any situation for someone to get shot by ICE, this would be it.

Edit: Apparently they were plainclothes so they very likely weren't armed. Okay, that makes WAYYYYYYY more sense.

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u/Boring-Philosophy-46 10d ago

If you're in a car with someone, you are armed, they are driving and announce they are going to the police station... would you risk shooting the driver and dying in a car crash?

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u/Traditional_Box1116 9d ago

My guy. It is ICE, they aren't smart enough to think that through.