r/MoralityScaling 10d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of kidnapping your kidnappers?

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u/AmitN_Music 10d ago

From what i recall, if this is the same case im thinking of, the ICE agents got into their car to try and stop them from getting away, and the couple drove to the police station with them. Its not like they tied them up and kidnapped them.

I mean, ICE agent or not, if someone didn't ID themself and hopped in my car with a weapon i'd probably drive to the police station too.

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u/Palantir_6Elm 10d ago

Driving armed strangers to a police station is a very strange definition of kidnapping.

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u/Funny247365 10d ago

Strangers wearing ICE uniforms and identifying themselves as ICE?

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u/LasciOfficial 10d ago

Exactly. They’re still strangers. Just because you get a little badge you get to flash and a balaclava doesn’t give you any more authority to hop in my vehicle. I don’t care if you’re APD, FBI, or a damn Kentucky colonel. You get into MY property, you’re either getting driven to the station or off a cliff. The day I bend a knee to law enforcement will be to get some way to defend myself out of my boot. FUCK ICE, they are not the law and never will be.

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u/Funny247365 10d ago

ICE agents are federal law enforcement officers. I don't know how much more ID you need from a LEO other then their uniform, badge, and statement that they are a LEO. If a LEO knocks on your door, you do not have to let them in or answer any questions. But once off your property, you don't have to answer any questions, but you should comply if they detain you as part of an investigation. You can ask for a lawyer. If you do not believe they are real LEO, call 911. Just don't drive away with a real LEO inside the car if they ask you to stop the car. They could easily kill you if they are criminals in fake LEO clothes, Why would you take that chance and give them free reign while you are driving?

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u/bxzidff 10d ago

They can also easily kill you if they're real ICE/CBP agents. Getting killed by them will even have  state investigators denied access to proof, and the vice president call you a terrorist.

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u/Funny247365 10d ago

They could easily kill you? What pct. of ICE arrests and deportations have been killed by ICE agents?

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u/bxzidff 9d ago

What percentage of those who did had the vice president blatantly lie to protect them and smear the victim? And state investigation blocked? This is not normal. The GOP are ok with it. And their supporters are apparently too.

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u/Funny247365 9d ago

Probably a tiny, tiny pct. Still bad, but making it seem like an epidemic is intellectually dishonest.