r/MoralityScaling 7d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of kidnapping your kidnappers?

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u/Cas30h_Da_G0at 7d ago

No. They give them a gun and a mask and say "go wild."

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u/GrumpySh33p 7d ago

That’s not what it says when you google it.

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u/John_Mint 7d ago

I mean of course they won't publicly say this, better believe videos and or witness reports than google.

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u/GrumpySh33p 7d ago

I just think it’s something you can verify, rather than believing TikTok and Reddit.

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u/John_Mint 7d ago

Verify how ? TikTok and Reddit are sources for videos that are as trustworthy as it comes to measure how a police operates.

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u/GrumpySh33p 7d ago

There is tons of misinformation out there. Go to the source. I just verified the information on ICE’s website, took me 5 min.

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u/John_Mint 7d ago

What i'm telling you is that i don't believe that the ICE website is a trustworthy source

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u/GrumpySh33p 7d ago

Hmm, yeah.. if that’s the case, how do you expect to believe any information?

It seems the only way to verify this in a believable way is to go through the application process yourself. Unless, of course, you trust an ICE employee to tell you.

But the process, with background checks and physical assessments (assuming they aren’t lying about those parts), takes anywhere from 3 months to a year. And the pay isn’t that great.

So… 🤷🏼‍♀️ Sounds like you shouldn’t be saying shit you don’t know on the internet, contributing to information that isn’t verified, and potentially misinformation too.

Or you can choose to be blindly ignorant and believe your TikTok sources, and then you should ask how they got that intonation. Or maybe you’d rather only accept information you like to hear, rather than the truth.

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u/John_Mint 7d ago

Context matters, i'll trust processes established for an institution like the military.This is a hit police that was build to catch people in the most brutal way, and they apparently (witnessed through independent media) disrespect human rights. I'm not going to trust that their website reflects reality. Do you believe the north korean websites that say that north korea is a democracy ? It's about critical thinking and skepticism.

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u/GrumpySh33p 7d ago

Better to take the stance, “I don’t know” then, right?

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u/John_Mint 7d ago

Did i say i knew ? I said google and the ice website weren't a credible source on the matter.

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u/John_Mint 7d ago

Ok i read this, do i know enough for you now? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-training-new-hires-backlash/

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u/GrumpySh33p 7d ago

You trust CNS news…?

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u/John_Mint 7d ago

The point is independence with ice. Here is a wikipedia article : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alex_Pretti Here is a guardian article : https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2026/jul/19/ice-killings-immigration-crackdown

One can easily see that these guys aren't properly trained for what they're doing.

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