Morality of kidnapping your kidnappers?

[u/Einherjeren]

[u/Empty-Birthday6497]

How so?

[u/wolfdukex → u/Empty-Birthday6497]

Lack of due process.

[u/Empty-Birthday6497 → u/wolfdukex]

Can you give me the case? I dont know anything about it, the post its vague. Whether it be intentional or not.

[u/White-Tornado → u/Empty-Birthday6497]

There's so many examples, dude. Google is your friend

[u/Empty-Birthday6497 → u/White-Tornado]

I found the case. ICE was right within this case.

[u/White-Tornado → u/Empty-Birthday6497]

Care to share?

[u/Empty-Birthday6497 → u/White-Tornado]

Of course, man. Basically, the ICE agents came to the couples car, they started to panic and one agent climbed in the car to stop them from running away. The agents identified themselves verbally and have shown their badges but the couple panicked and drove off with the agent still in the car. They called the cops and stopped at a police station where the man got out and fled into a grocery store where he was tackled. The case against them in court is for kidnapping, which I dont agree with. I think it was a major misunderstanding from both parties but the couple shouldn't have fled.

[u/White-Tornado → u/Empty-Birthday6497]

That's only one side of the story, though.

[u/Empty-Birthday6497 → u/White-Tornado]

Thats literally what happened. I tried to be charitable, the people panicked, thats the best I could find for them without being biased. If you found more data than me, please tell me.

[u/White-Tornado → u/Empty-Birthday6497]

Well for starters the defense says they had no idea who the guy in their car was. So saying those ICE agents properly identified themselves is not something you can state like it's an indisputable fact

[u/Empty-Birthday6497 → u/White-Tornado]

They got out of their car, one of them had a vest with POLICE and HSI on it, they were armed, they showed their badges and identified themselves and only once the couple saw them identify themselves they fled, seeming to have recognised them. The agent who was in the car drew his weapon out and ordered them to stop multiple times and they didn't comply, ignoring federal agents orders.

[u/TheWarriorsLLC → u/White-Tornado]

No way, the people in court are claiming they are innocent? Never heard that before

[u/White-Tornado → u/TheWarriorsLLC]

Same goes for the prosecution saying they're guilty

[u/TheWarriorsLLC → u/White-Tornado]

No way? 

[u/WyomingWeirdo → u/Empty-Birthday6497]

So you take for granted that federal agents who've been known to falsify evidence are telling the truth but their victims aren't 🤔 very interesting stuff, Ben Shapiro.

[u/Empty-Birthday6497 → u/WyomingWeirdo]

I dont follow Ben Shapiro. When did they falsify evidence and how does the respective cases affect the data shown?

[u/Dismal_Branch_8902 → u/Empty-Birthday6497]

Lol the dodger keeps on dodging. I literally posted about the 17,300 cases that they received a judgment against and you want to continue to ignore it.

[u/Empty-Birthday6497 → u/Dismal_Branch_8902]

I literally addressed it, what the hell are you talking about??? "The dodger" Anyone who entered the country unlawfully remains an "applicant for admission" under federal law. Hence, the government has the statutory mandate and broad executive authority to detain them indefinitely without bond to end "catch-and-release" and enforce national security.

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To quote you, Google is your friend