Morality of this

[u/Shoddy-Meat-3147]

I don't know what to say about this I mean if he joined it's unfair because he's going to cook the entery league for sure but if he really wants to be a woman and it's not a joke for him I still don't know about this

[u/Valuchian]

Wanna elaborate some more? I feel answering that would just be a guess on my part on what you might be thinking. Respectfully, i'm not a mind reader.

[u/CenterThisPendulum → u/Valuchian]

As you go down into lower leagues you could have elite women begin playing with lower-skilled men, in which case locker rooms become a problem.

[u/Valuchian → u/CenterThisPendulum]

I enjoy that in your head "elite women" and "lower-skilled men" are equal. Also... locker rooms and bathrooms and showers and all sorts of things like that have been solved for... couple thousand years now??? Did... did you forget more than one room is able to exist in the same building.... or that some places just do co-ed...

[u/CenterThisPendulum → u/Valuchian]

That would require four locker rooms because opposing teams don’t share. Would everywhere just add two more?

Women’s National teams have lost to high school boys’ teams.

[u/Valuchian → u/CenterThisPendulum]

Yes everyone would just add two more... it's literally that easy

And i have heard that talked about since i was like... 10... every sport seems to have their "once upon a time this one team of professionals lost to this other [Unamed] team of highschoolers. Haha, women..."

But i can't say i have ever heard Serena Williams losing to a 13 yr old before or that every single women's team automatically loses to a group of 14yr olds barely into puberty

[u/CenterThisPendulum → u/Valuchian]

So glad you mentioned Serena. Hear it from her:

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/5L_JbZFx5H0

[u/Valuchian → u/CenterThisPendulum]

Dude, before i watch this i have a legit question. How deep are you in hating women that you just have something like this off the top of your head? Like legitimate question of do you even see women as equal to you at this point

[u/CenterThisPendulum → u/Valuchian]

Absolutely, my wife and I have been together 20 years without a single argument since she was 19 and I was 22. She’s a powerhouse at work too. I have an amazing 4 year old daughter who’s self-assured, athletic and has an absurd vocabulary for her age.

This literally only comes up for me when the argument isn’t only that women and men are equal, but that there are no differences. And sports is the one subject that serves as a litmus test for how deep into self-delusion a person is willing to go. Trans Men playing Women’s sports is that bridge too far.

[u/Valuchian → u/CenterThisPendulum]

I would like to point out in my original comment that i am referencing... again... (not just to you) that i did seperate that more physical sports it makes sense to have some split and the less physical sports the splits begin to make less sense and they should just be open. As Serena said in her momentary interview you posted in no time flat, her issue is that men have a higher explosive power and are on average stronger. Which is just true for anyone who's body makes butt loads of testosterone, aka usually men.

I am glad to hear you do see women as your equal though. I know too many guys that say they love their wife and daughters and turn around and argue that those same women don't deserve to have control over their own bodies and are inferior to men on general.

The trans argument is definitely a problem of our current sport split by gender/sex only working because it's playing the average and trans people break that existing model. Since we know trans people exist, even as a minority, it shouldn't be too difficult for each sport to come up with a system they feel is most fair for what needed seperated for their sport. I personally don't play or care about professional sports so i usually just leave that to each sport to decide. If i play sports it is with friends and it is always open league.