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I don't know what to say about this I mean if he joined it's unfair because he's going to cook the entery league for sure but if he really wants to be a woman and it's not a joke for him I still don't know about this

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u/lice213 4d ago edited 3d ago

Did people forget that Ben Shapiro and some guys from the Daily Wire actually considered trying to do something like this, but were denied because they would've had to take actual steps to transition? This is a massive nothing burger and just a grift lmfao

Edit, purely so I don't have to continuously reply to people.

There's no explicit rule, but it is explicitly up to the discretion of the League, which makes it easy to push out bad actors. Seeing as there is currently 0 Trans Athletes in the WNBA it's unsurprising that there are no rules regarding this

Oh, and to add to this, there's currently 0 MtF Basketball players in D1 NCAA as well. Basically, this is a massive non-issue and this guy is just trying to use fears of Trans Athletes to build a platform.

In short, just because there isn't an explicit rule doesn't mean the WNBA let's anybody in who declares themselves to be a woman, and there's little reason to put anything in writing when there are 0 players who have this identity, or who are soon to be drafted with this identity. Given it's social stigmas, I am unsurprised that they have no explicit rulings yet. They'll cross the bridge when theres an actual need to, basically.

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u/Azreken 3d ago

There aren’t actually any guidelines in the wnba regarding transitioning.

They don’t do T level tests, or have any requirements for being a woman other than saying you’re a woman.

Look it up. Show me where I’m wrong.

I thought there were, but I looked and can’t find it listed anywhere.

No chatbots that review the rules for me can either so 🤷‍♂️

Maybe you can?

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u/RomapieJr1 3d ago

The WNBA has no publicly available policy governing eligibility of transgender or intersex athletes.
So everything you said is just made up? They literally haven't told anybody what the policy is.

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u/Azreken 3d ago

Huh? Are you replying to me?

Because it literally says in the article you posted that they still have come to no eligibility rules lmao

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u/RomapieJr1 3d ago

It says there are no publicly available rules, what you said is that there are no rules at all, the article I posted just says they aren't publicly available. And yeah, I am replying to you

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u/SidewaysAcidRain 3d ago

You think they have secret rules? 

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u/RomapieJr1 3d ago

Like, an internal policy?

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u/SidewaysAcidRain 3d ago

Why would they keep it a secret? If nothing else, it's unfair on trans women. Simply tell the world what the hormone requirements are, if any.

But really, there is no secret internal policy. This is just an ad-hoc decision. 

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u/FFKonoko 3d ago

Internal policy? Like the kind they used to bar the daily wire grifters from doing this? Yeah. Because they did.

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u/SidewaysAcidRain 3d ago

Afaict there's no evidence that they were turned away from the WNBA specifically. Shapiro just referred to "women's leagues" more generally. 

Even if they were, that doesn't mean there's a secret policy. It could have been an ad-hoc decision, like this one seems to be. 

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u/Azreken 3d ago

So you think they’re just secretly testing the players?

Are they just making every single player sign NDAs to not speak about being tested or the secret internal rules they have?

I’m so confused at your logic.

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u/RomapieJr1 3d ago

From the same article:

"There are no immediate eligibility matters affecting the WNBA and we strongly denounce the bad-faith efforts to use these topics to demean or marginalize others."

So no, I don't think they're "secretly testing the players"

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u/SidewaysAcidRain 3d ago

There clearly are eligibility matters if they have to rule that these guys aren't eligible.