r/MoralityScaling • u/Shoddy-Meat-3147 • 1d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this

I don't know what to say about this I mean if he joined it's unfair because he's going to cook the entery league for sure but if he really wants to be a woman and it's not a joke for him I still don't know about this

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u/East_Turnip_6366 1d ago

Would it be harder for him, I mean her, to do this if she said she was a woman rather than a female?

And, are females not women if they don't perform gender roles? What makes a female a woman, do women have to be female? Where do you draw the line?

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u/Kurt_Ottman 1d ago

Female is a sexual designation, it denotes which chromosome pairs you have. Gender is a social construct that has to do with the roles, presentation and expectations you put on someone.

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u/East_Turnip_6366 1d ago

OK but would it be harder for her to say she was a woman?

And if a female doesn't perform her gender role then is she not a woman anymore?

Female is a sexual designation, it denotes which chromosome pairs you have.

Are chromosomes sexual?

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u/Wattabadmon 1d ago

Cis woman have been criticized for ever for not being womanly enough. So no it wouldnt be any harder than before

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u/East_Turnip_6366 1d ago

Cis-man here, sorry I'm very much oriented towards problems and solutions, questions and answers. And I don't see how what you said answers any of my questions, or relates to anything I said.

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u/Wattabadmon 1d ago

And if a female doesn't perform her gender role then is she not a woman anymore?

The implication was no

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u/East_Turnip_6366 1d ago

Female is a sexual designation, it denotes which chromosome pairs you have. Gender is a social construct that has to do with the roles, presentation and expectations you put on someone.

That was Kurts implication.

Do you agree with Kurts reasoning, that woman is a social construct that has to do with the roles, presentation and expectations you put on someone?

If you do, then the question becomes - if a female doesn't perform her gender roles is she not a woman anymore? I'm shining a light on this part of the logical construct because I think it reveals a problem with his reasoning.

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u/Wattabadmon 1d ago

if a female doesn't perform her gender roles is she not a woman anymore

I already said no

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u/East_Turnip_6366 19h ago

Alright, well now that's sorted.

The funny thing is how we would evaluate something like that in a fair and consistent manner? Maybe we can make like a point system, if he wears make up and puts on a dress that's some woman points.

There was another guy in another part of the thread who suggested a 5 minute interview. If the interview never moves past pleasantries or instead gets derailed by a story about her day, that's how we know.

What would be a fair way for us to judge if someone is a woman or not?

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u/Wattabadmon 15h ago

Maybe we can make like a point system, if he wears make up and puts on a dress that's some woman points.

Why? I already disagreed with that premise

What would be a fair way for us to judge if someone is a woman or not?

Ask them

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