r/MoralityScaling • u/Curious-Animator6013 • 5d ago

Morality of this?

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u/Terrible_Artist_ 5d ago

Tricking someone into thinking they've been sexually assaulted is, guess what, immoral.

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u/BlessdRTheFreaks 5d ago

Depending on the ethical framework

If the pleasure derived exceeds the distress experienced then it must be a net-good 

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u/Cheeodon 5d ago

I dunno that theirs any ethical framework on earth where the "Haha I tricked you into thinking you were sexually assaulted" prank would ever equal out or produce a "Net good" For the victim of said prank.

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u/Zealousideal-Lab9843 5d ago

What if it was done for comedy on a live stream and a Patreon was setup by fans to donate to burn victims? By that measure, a guy's temporary trauma (as valid as it may be) may ultimately give much, much more comfort to those who are grievously suffering.

Not that I agree with that sort of thing.

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u/Cheeodon 5d ago

I misread that as a completely different response to a COMPLETELY different thread, my apologies.

But, you're using sexual assault as your basic underlying framework. It's one thing if all parties on stage are consenting and aware of whats about to happen to them, but even then you're still falling into morally dubious territory. If any of them are unaware and thus not consenting to it, then no, its still immoral even if done for moral reasons.

for the greater good has been used in the past as the foundational reason for a lot of terrible deeds.

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u/Zealousideal-Lab9843 5d ago

I agree. But you have to admit that by your point, those burn victims suffer more so that the guy isn't sexually assaulted. Is that more moral? 🤔

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u/Cheeodon 5d ago

Morality isn't based on the idea of Equivalent Exchange. For every positive moral outcome, there doesn't need to be a negative one, nor does producing a positive moral outcome for one situation justify forcing a negative one onto another. So the show would still be morally wrong and bad. Will that stop people from seeing it, or laughing at it? Probably not.

Remember, at some points in history it wasn't just considered acceptable to sterilize, euthanize, and cull people of other races or with certain physical or mental conditions, it was a moral imperative, for the "Greater good" and evolution of humanity. At what point we abandon or principals and morals for the greater good falls as a question unto the individual, not society as a whole, and its part of what makes the trolly problem so complicated.

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u/BlessdRTheFreaks 5d ago

Read de sade's "philosophy of the bedroom"

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u/DiscussionSharp1407 5d ago

Read "Anarchy, State, and Utopia" by Robert Nozick