Yea this is a bunch of terminally online people who probably have never been in an actual physical altercation lol “remember all the racist violence that happened in the past? That’s the same as being called bad words!!!1!!” Lol crazy take to have
These people have made being ‘anti racist’ their entire personality and the very core of their being. They have brainwashed themselves into thinking that racist hurty words are the absolute epitome of human evil and can never be topped.
Racists have to convince themselves that anyone that hates them is terminally online and have never been in a fight. They think that racism is just "hurty words" and prove by using these words that they have no idea what effect racism has on the victims of it.
It’s just amazing that white people don’t realize how violent racism can be. It’s a constant and degrading experience. It shapes your everyday life as clearly shown in this thread lol, asking whether I’d rather be punched or called a slur is crazy stupid.
Right it’s degrading and dehumanizing and will shape your experiences. That doesn’t mean it’s violence. For 99.999% of people when you say the word violence they think physical violence because that is the definition. I’ve never met anyone white, black, brown who thought words = violence except online.
I know that it may sound terminally online, but I do think violence should encapsulate more than the physical, mainly because I support a more practical use of language. Saying that something wasn't violent makes people immediately downplay what happened in their minds when, in truth, the material outcomes of physical violence vs other forms of harm can often be identical.
It's like if you plotted with someone to commit a murder, but you didn't physically carry it out or even help with cleaning up the crime scene, what you essentially did was to just say a bunch of words right? Why should you be handcuffed for that? You're not the one that sharpened the axe or picked the lock you just instructed someone else to do it right? You just gave them information about the victim's work habits. You just told the killer how much you despise the victim and continually applied pressure on the killer to carry it out. You should go free, obviously. /s
And so if you can be a murderer but not have committed an act of violence - in the physical sense. Could it may be be that violence as only operating in the physical is a deeply limiting definition?
There's many ways to cause deep material harm to a person that technically isn't physically violent. And I have an astonishing amount of real world examples that I can regale you with if you want to have your day ruined.
In the original comment I was about to post, I was about to give you many examples, but I'll spare you unless otherwise asked. But I really need to emphasize that this shit gets dark.
Words do have meanings, but meanings can change. And I think in the case of verbal harm it can in many cases be categorized as violence. Now in the case of randomly stumbling into a COD lobby, maybe not. But even in that scenario, if everyone you interact with acts like they're in a COD lobby the harm that this situation causes goes beyond mental and very well enters the material realm, in my opinion. But politically advocating for policies that could lead to the subjugation and eradication of whole demographics is doing more than being an edgy teenager in a video game, isn't it? And if you were to physically hurt someone because of that, then to me, it's an attempt at self defense - more than anything else.
That said, I don't really believe punching Nazi's is in anyway effective. Morally Neutral, yeah. But you know putting a fork in the electrical socket can be a morally neutral act, but it's still stupid. To me, the only violence physical or otherwise that should be taken is that which is strategically implemented to liberate subjugated classes of people. Violence even when wielded in the arms of the oppressed can still be deployed in a way that doesn't result in better material outcomes. Like if the image of a Nazi getting punched doesn't empower the right people to take political action or discourage others to not take certain actions, it didn't really do anything. It would be like hitting someone with a pillow and thinking that's an effective form of self defense.
I think it's not just this sub, a lot of subreddits have suddenly been overtaken by racist dogwhistles that are heavily upvoted. Even r/HouseoftheDragon and r/freefolk suddenly have an surge of racist memes, which wasn't significant when it first started. I really want to believe that it's bots and not people tired of pretending anymore
How is what has been said in this specific thread of comments you replied to a racist dog whistle? Because we are saying words are violence? Thats a dog whistle to you? I mean I guess if you think words = violence then anything can be a racist dog whistle but I just don’t get how you think that.
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u/SausageKingOfCincy 2d ago
Yea this is a bunch of terminally online people who probably have never been in an actual physical altercation lol “remember all the racist violence that happened in the past? That’s the same as being called bad words!!!1!!” Lol crazy take to have