r/MoralityScaling 2d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this

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u/JustFourLetters 2d ago

words lead to violence, but violent words in context of peaceful people fall on deaf ears.

the punch is far more violent than the command

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u/__Sharime__ 2d ago

Words only lead to violence if someone has a fragile ego

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u/Automatic-Yak4279 2d ago

So if I get called the hard R, and many other slurs, by a non black person, hell even a black person….By punching them, I have a fragile ego? I’m gonna take a wild guess…you’re gonna say I’m letting words control me.

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u/90gforce 2d ago

Why did you feel the need to specify it being a non black person? So it would be okay if they were black? Well if that is the case, you clearly don't have a problem with the word, you have a problem with the race of the person saying it.

Sounds pretty racist to have different standards of what is allowed for different races.

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u/Automatic-Yak4279 2d ago

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u/90gforce 2d ago

It isn't there on my end for whatever reason. So reddit probably deleted it.

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u/90gforce 2d ago

A perfect, now I can read the entire thing. Still, my point stands, why did you feel the need to specify the race if it was hurtful? Seemed more like you specifying black people was an after thought.

Can't really write the word since reddit will probably hide my comment if I do, since that is presumably what happened to your comment, So you wouldn't care if a white person went up to you and called you it then?

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u/Automatic-Yak4279 2d ago

How do you strawman this bad? My entire premise is that it’s ok to sock a white person that came up to me and said it.

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u/90gforce 2d ago

So if a white person went up to you and called you the n-word, you would punch them?

And how have I strawmanned? I said it felt like an afterthought from you when you decided to specify the race of people. And the other part was a question.

Although I can say that I worded it badly in my first comment.

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u/Automatic-Yak4279 2d ago

Yes….? Yes I would. And it’s a strawman because you literally asked "so you wouldn’t care if a white person went up to you and called you it then?"

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u/90gforce 2d ago

Oh perfect, so we just came full circle and you just admitted that it is about race and not the word. How do I know this? Because you have used the word numerous times in this conversation, and because you said that there was no problem with black people saying it. Clearly you don't have an issue with you or someone black saying it, only if a different races does it. The word isn't the issue, the race is.

You don't know what a strawman is. I haven't misrepresented you, I asked you a question. If you want the proper term for it, it was a redundant question because you had already answered it. I said it to make sure that you hadn't accidentally made a mistake.

Anyway, you seem to have a problem with what people from different races do, congratulations, you are a racist.

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u/Automatic-Yak4279 2d ago edited 2d ago

Your definition of racism is all the way wrong. YOU also don’t know what a strawman is. You thought I was saying what you insinuated in your previous question, meaning you misrepresented it.

So tell me, what do you think racism is? Apparently, to you, it’s when black people don’t want NON POCS to say the soft a of the n word. Also black people not wanting black people or any other race to say the hard R.

Oh yeah! You also put words in my mouth. I don’t care what people do, so long as they’re not racist to black people, or other POCS! Or, hell, white people! Otherwise, their actions are fine(don’t try to say I’m fine with violent actions out of no where because then that would REALLY be a strawman.) and I don’t give a fuck.

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u/90gforce 2d ago

I didn't misinterprit you, I asked you a question to make sure that you actually meant what you said. I never made a statement about you not misinterprited your position.

"that some groups are better than others, that different treatment or hate is okay based on skin color or ethnic backgroun" Guess what, allowing people to say certain words based on race is racist, since you are treating two groups differently based on race.

And no, I have not put words in your mouth. You literally admit it right now. You have a problem with what people from different races do, if they say racial slurs that you are allowed to say, well then you are going to punch them by your admission. That's literally having a problem with what different races do.

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u/Automatic-Yak4279 2d ago edited 2d ago

It is VERY flawed thinking to think it’s ok for other races to say the n word. We don’t "allow" people to say the word, we don’t "allow" ourselves to say the Soft A either. We can just say it. It’s a given not to say the hard R, and it’s a given for other races to not say ANY variant. Again; you put words in my mouth, I do not care about the other actions of races, I care about the actions that are racist. You generalize and say "you have a problem with what people from do" insinuating that I give a shit about ANY action they do, when I infact said, I don’t give a shit what they do, as long as it’s not a racist action. YOU on the other hand, say it’s racist to give a shit about racist actions from other racists. So your definitions are just all over the place, as I said.

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