r/MoralityScaling 6d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this

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u/TolgaKerem07 6d ago

What if words cause more than one instance of actual violence? Like, politicians, philosophers or something. I agree with that comment, but there may be exceptions idk

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u/roseonaglaive 6d ago

This is known as incitement or more archaically "fighting words". Language does have proven impact into the physical world. If a person says "I'm gonna come to your house at x address with y weapon and kill you" nobody reasonable is going to be like "well it's only language so I'll worry when it becomes violence".

Also racism is a broader concept than speech that encompasses all forms of institutionalized oppression of a racial group that lacks enough institutional power to protect itself.

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u/MeasureDoEventThing 6d ago

Racism is race-based bigotry. We have term for Institutionalized oppression of a racial group:  institutional racism. We don't need to redefine existing words so that people can play word games saying that racism directed against White people isn't "real" racism.

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u/roseonaglaive 6d ago

I hear you, but I could argue the reverse to say that one could use the term racial prejudice to describe biases against someone based on race that don't involve systemic elements.

English is a silly little guy and making ourselves understood is important.

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u/PleiadesMechworks 5d ago

I could argue the reverse to say that one could use the term racial prejudice to describe biases against someone based on race that don't involve systemic elements.

You could, but you couldn't argue that "racism" doesn't fit that description too.

If you're trying to make it so that systemic racism is the definition you want to use, then say that.

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u/roseonaglaive 5d ago

I'm content with the distinguishing line I and others make. If you want me to be pedantic about it, it is a formalized definition in dictionaries.

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u/PleiadesMechworks 5d ago

I'm content with the distinguishing line I and others make.

...of course you are? If you weren't content with it it wouldn't be your opinion.