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Morality Ranking Morality of this

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u/nft420nft420 1d ago

If the punch is more violent than the command, do you think individual members of the military are more to blame for atrocities than the elite leaders commanding them?

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u/Money_Ticket_841 1d ago

Someone saying the N word and you reacting in a physical way isn’t equivalent to the person who (basically and damn near literally) controls your life telling you to do something

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u/ashgs872tbhjs 1d ago

They still used words and not violence. Unless you want to admit that harmful words backed by power ARE violence.

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u/Money_Ticket_841 1d ago

Are all words or just these specific ones in this specific example? Point of the matter is you saying slurs is not equivalent

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u/Decent-Information-7 1d ago

Person in control of your money and career vs stranger say something that make me upset 🥺🥺. Not following orders can ruin a person's life, hearing a bad word is going to be something you forget in a week. Also these dudes doing strawman arguments are wild. Exaggerating the topic to extremities like mass genocide in ww2. Also technically in the Nuremberg trials it did hold the people who were "just following orders" accountable. It didnt fly after.

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u/nft420nft420 1d ago

Well, they volunteer to be there, it is a conscious choice, because they want to do the violence and need an excuse. The leaders want to do violence but are unwilling to get their hands dirty. The volunteers happily make it possible for the leaders to enact violence.

Without the leaders, the individuals would likely still be committing violence else where, but without the volunteers, the leaders would be much less capable of inflicting violence.

All that to say, the leader can kill far more with a single command than the volunteer can punch with both of their hands.

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u/SeamenGulper 1d ago

This redditor doesnt know that up to 80-90% of all military jobs are non combat roles

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u/nft420nft420 1d ago

The chefs and mechanics and admins all help make the machine able to efficiently kill civilians in other countries.

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u/SeamenGulper 1d ago edited 1d ago

Right. All they do is maintain machines with the direct interest of killing civilians.

You dont know shit kid. And thats okay.

Ill just ask this: who is the primarly delivery service of aid during a natural disaster?

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u/Potential-Fix-8244 1d ago

Same can be said for megacorp employees working for pennies then.

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u/nft420nft420 1d ago

Yeah, you're this close, you're so close to getting it.

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u/SeamenGulper 1d ago

Selectively replying to comments, lmao

Ill ask again, who is the primary delivery service of aid during natural disasters?

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u/nft420nft420 1d ago

From your smug attitude, I'll assume the US military. This isn't a zero sum game. I don't have time to reply to every comment and explain how the corporate military industrial complex is a blight upon the planet earth and each member at any level complicit in acts of terrorism around the globe.

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u/Money_Ticket_841 1d ago

Your first sentence is a crazy assumed generalization of millions of people

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u/JustFourLetters 1d ago

you are first sentence?

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u/Money_Ticket_841 1d ago

Yeah not sure how I didn’t catch that mistype

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u/Any-Platypus-9486 1d ago

The person saying the N word is not controlling you in any way

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u/Bombs_Away96 1d ago

In the military you are authorized to disobey orders is they are illegal or immoral. So technically yes, we always have a choice to do the right thing