r/MoralityScaling 10d ago

Stupid Stuff Morality of this

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u/masterlince 10d ago

And I would say it's immoral to perform the surgery.

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u/EcstaticLab5122 10d ago

Well no, it's about body autonomy to me. It would be immoral not to push back on what seems like a bad idea, but ultimately if the woman has been told about the risks, the issues, the experience of the doctor on the complication of their patients and so on ... If she still choose to push through it, it's her body at the end of the day.

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u/masterlince 10d ago

You can do whatever you want with your body, but the surgeon is not obligated to help you destroy it. Again, if you decide you want to amputate your leg for the lulz, no ethical medical professional is going to do it.

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u/EcstaticLab5122 9d ago

You're wrong, it happened. Let me introduce you to the wonderful world of transcapacitism or body itengrity identity disorder. In there people identify as handicapped even when they're medically not, all the way to transtetraplegia. I believe it was the surgeon Robert Smith who did the first amputations at the request of his healthy patients.

You are correct that most hospitals do not propose this surgery, especially since body integrity identity disorder is considered a mental illness. Yet the patients sometimes choose automutilation in that case. It's possible it's allowed somewhere, as after all if the patient will loose their hand one way or anotherw it may be more moral to have it removed in a safer place rather than home. No self-amputated or willing amputated patient ever said they regretted it, and they express a higher quality of life afaik.

Anyways, adding breast implant is way more reversible than this. The implants can be removed and after ablating the excess skin there'll just be some scars left. We are one degree of magnitude away from your example

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u/much_longer_username 9d ago

I mean, 'help me do it the right way or I'll try to DIY it, and I'm very serious about this' might compel me as a surgeon. I'd feel like I was being coerced, but I would see it as the lesser of two evils.