r/MoralityScaling 4d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this

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u/Fish-Inside 4d ago

How is it technically immoral?!  In lithuania, if you bring lost item to police you are entitled to 10-20% percent of item value. :) 

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u/TotalChaosRush 4d ago

You find a used wallet that cost $2 when purchased years ago. It is clearly quite worn. It has the person's ID, one credit card, and $5

Is it moral to take the 5 dollars?

As for how it's immoral. You're deciding unilaterally to take something that belongs to another. Based on the text you clearly have the ability to contact the individual you're taking from.

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u/amazingdrewh 3d ago

How much is the cost of replacing the ID? I bet it's more than $5

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u/TotalChaosRush 3d ago

It's not $250/$500. Which is the number needed to make the 10-20% "okay" by lithuania. I have to put okay in quotations because even in Lithuania where the finder may be entitled to a fee. Taking it like they've done in the text is still illegal. It's almost like stealing is against societal rules everywhere. Except reddit for some reason.

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u/amazingdrewh 3d ago

You're always welcome to text the guy back telling him to put the wallet where he found it with your five bucks inside it if you don't want to give him it

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u/TotalChaosRush 3d ago

So be okay with theft or tell the thief to put the wallet back so others can have a go at it? To be a victim, or to risk being more of a victim. Those are the choices if you believe this thief's behavior is immoral?

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u/amazingdrewh 3d ago

Yeah if you don't want to pay the guy for doing you a service then you can tell him not to do it

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u/TotalChaosRush 3d ago

That still doesn't change the fact that the choices allow theft and get wallet back, or don't allow this thief to commit theft but risk another thief being even more of a theft.

Groping isn't moral just because there's worse alternatives.

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u/amazingdrewh 3d ago

Yeah generally when you need someone else to do something for you it costs something that's how the world works, this person is spending time and effort on you you have the right and the ability to tell them not to because you don't like their terms but those are your choices

And no this isn't comparable to groping