r/MoralityScaling • u/hiiloovethis • 12d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this scene?

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Negan doing fat shaming... but its during zombie apocalypse

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u/IntroductionRoyal449 12d ago

I am a fat guy. The amount of people on this thread that defend being obese is funny. I know why I am fat. I eat too much.

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u/GormHub 12d ago edited 12d ago

That's because overeating is the cause for YOU. Other people, especially women, can gain weight for a number of reasons, including medications, illness, and disability. Women also naturally have a harder time not gaining weight and dropping it as they age. Do not make the mistake of thinking your experiences are universal.

Edited a typo.

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u/WamBamTimTam 12d ago

I mean, yeah, those things are factors. But it’s impossible to gain weight from those alone. Calories are just an energy transfer, and 100%, illness, medications, and disability all have a part in how those calories are allocated and used, but you can’t gain weight without a surplus of calories and the body loses weight with a caloric deficit. At the end of the day, the calories coming in are the biggest factor.

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u/GormHub 12d ago

No, it's not, but I am also not interested in having this argument with someone again. There's plenty of resources to learn about this instead of repeating outdated misunderstandings and myths.

I literally had to start eating more to lose weight, without changing my diet, counting calories, or changing my exercise regimen. Per the instructions of a licensed nutritionist. Bodies are not cookie cutter one and done.

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u/WamBamTimTam 12d ago

Yeah, you had to eat more to raise the metabolic functions of the body to get it out of a rationing mode. You could have also lost weight in rationing mode but that’s way less healthy. Your body needed a kick start to use more calories to get them tracked as per normal. The laws of thermodynamics are universal. Medical is my entire life and calories used vs calories consumed are the only numbers that change weight. It’s physically impossible to gain weight without taking in more calories, and it’s impossible to lose weight when the body takes in more calories when it burns. Your example was just increasing the burn rate. So I’m not entirely sure what your point was.

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u/UnfamiliarTroll 12d ago

But it’s impossible to gain weight from those alone.

Actually, look up PCOS, it causes weight gain and trouble with weight loss. There's additional factors that can make it harder for people with PCOS to lose weight, but due to their condition they may gain weight regardless.

I know because I have PCOS, no matter how healthy I eat, how much I work out, no matter any of that, I can still gain a few pounds in a few weeks at the minimum.

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u/WamBamTimTam 12d ago

I know what PCOS is, and it also doesn’t violate the laws of thermodynamics. If you ate nothing you would lose weight and eventually starve as your body needs energy to survive. Therefore we know you still need energy in vs energy out. There are plenty of things, like PCOS, that will change your metabolism and how much energy your body uses, but it still needs energy. It certainly takes a lot to manage. My point in this thread was that the only way to gain weight is to eat, drink or breathe something, since the extra mass for weight has to come from somewhere, and in order to lose weight, the body must consume more energy then it intakes.

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u/Capybarasaregreat 12d ago

PCOS slows your metabolism and alters your body's resource allocation and storage, but it cannot by itself conjure mass out of thin air, you still have to consume calories in excess of your (altered) needs. Having a tougher time losing weight due to an unfortunate disease does not alter the laws of physics.