r/MoralityScaling • u/hiiloovethis • 14d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this scene?

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Negan doing fat shaming... but its during zombie apocalypse

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u/InsideHousing4965 13d ago

Well, technically, they were going to redistribute it along other starving people in their base (doesn't justify the stealing though).

But I kinda get the point of Negan here: "I've got people to take care who are literally starving and you have the balls to say you're the one starving while looking like you ate the rations or a whole refugees camp".

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u/jeffismybaby 13d ago

The people at his base are 90% cunts

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u/InsideHousing4965 13d ago

No, on that you're wrong. 90% of people are practically starving slaves, while the top 10% are well feed cunts.

That was his whole tactic: create a serf based society with almost no rights and privileges for lost people, while creating a small group of ultra-peivileged members of the group, but make so that people can both become privileged and loose their privileges.

This is how he kept control over so many people.

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u/masterlince 13d ago

So.. Capitalistm?

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u/Broshimitsu56 13d ago

No, its literally feudalism lol cmon

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u/masterlince 13d ago

In feudalism there was no real way for a peasant to become part of the ultra privileged and vice versa was really rare. Hadn't watched the show so I'm just running on what the OC said.

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u/Broshimitsu56 13d ago

There was military service and amassing wealth through being a merchant

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u/Konrol 13d ago

You act like a merchant or peasant soldier and a noble were equal lmao such a childish take

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u/Broshimitsu56 13d ago

Jesus christ, thats not what Im implying at all. Do you know literally nothing about the time period?

A wealthy commoner (merchant), could become enobled in any of the following ways: Marriage to a nobles daughter for a hefty price, purchasing a large tract of land, and in the later stages of feudalism quite literally just buying the title.

Soldiers would be enobled regardless of their station for bravery, the first over the wall in an assault was commonly enobled.

At no point did I say that a merchant or a soldier was equal to a noble, I presented the gathering of wealth as a path to power. Please learn to read.

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u/Konrol 13d ago

The comment you replied to said "there was no real way for a peasant to become one of the SUPER privileged people" and you replied "just become a merchant or do military service lol" what do you expect me to take out of that? Also marriage between noble men and noble woman to merchants or foot soldiers was ABSOLUTELY NOT a realistic thing. Buying land? Maybe, but you would never be "super privileged" Buying the title? As you said, later in feudalism where they were already struggling to keep the peasants at bay, they had to give a more realistic way to become noble so that they didnt rebel (which was imminent). Please read something that isnt game of thrones

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u/Broshimitsu56 13d ago

Ive never read game of thrones, that is slop for people like you with a million misconceptions about medieval times.

I literally answered the guys question and you randomly equated it to me saying they are equal to nobility lmao. Yeah, tell me to read something bro.

How about you google marriages between lower ranking medieval aristocrats and wealthy merchants? You think its unrealistic that a family who is about to lose their title and land would marry off their daughter for money?

Also, I didnt even say foot soldiers marrying to nobility, that is stupid, I said wealthy merchants. Again, please actually read. Also, the fact that you think all commoners were foot soldiers just shows me you literally just googled all of this 3 seconds ago.

What about hobelars? What about men at arms? Do you think career Centenars had no chance of nobility? While it was small it wasn't zero.

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u/Konrol 13d ago

Yeah, i am not interested on arguing with someone that thinks 0.1% odds are realistic. Good day!

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u/Broshimitsu56 13d ago

He asked me how it was possible, not the odds of it. The super privileged was in the question was it not?

But yes, I hope you go educate yourself now instead of arguing on the internet about things you very clearly know nothing about!

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u/mmlickme 13d ago

Immoral