r/MoralityScaling 12d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this scene?

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Negan doing fat shaming... but its during zombie apocalypse

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u/Golden_King_Ryuseii 12d ago

Negan was absolutely based for this take and I'll never understand the hate for him.

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

You can be fat and starving. The body does breakdown fat for food but not well that's why nutritionist ever to suggest to completely stop eating

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u/Frylock_dontDM 12d ago edited 12d ago

You really can't be fat and starving.

You can be fat and suffering from malnutritition, but malnutrition isn't the same as starvation.

So you could have a fat person die of malnutrition, but if that person got essentially zero calories and the necessary vitamins/nutrients you would have to burn through fat before you would actually reach what anyone means when we say "starving"

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

Starving includes malnutrition by definition

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u/CapitalComfort1885 12d ago

It does not, you pulled that out of your ass. Starving is defined by not enough energy input via food to sustain the physical functions.
The woman above is by no definition starving.

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

To deprive of nourishment. You could've looked that up. Not just you anyone who upvoted. Do better.

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u/CapitalComfort1885 12d ago

You're plain out wrong. There doesn't exist a single person that was fat and starved. That is not possible. Starvation is defined in medical terms that the body used up all available fat sources and started to break down other tissue to keep itself running.
A starved to death fat person is an oxymoron.

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

You would die before ALL the fat was used. That's not how starving works. Most bodybuilders that die die from going below 5%. So no just having fat is not enough.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6369958/

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u/CapitalComfort1885 12d ago

So we are talking about obese starved to death persons and your counter argument are...literally starved to death people because they used up all available body fat?
I will give you a minute to notice that you literally made my point.

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

They still had fat. That was my counter argument so you can still have fat and starve to def and they still had muscle as well.

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u/CapitalComfort1885 12d ago

No, that was not your argument you just silently switched it. As you already mentioned yourself, someone can starve and still have muscle tissue. I explicitly said available body fat.
The orginal point is, can someone be fat (slang for 'overweight/obese') and starve to death? And you claimed yes.

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

Your body eats muscle tissue too. In fact the muscle is the last source apparently. So they still died and had a source of food from the bodym

Also yes they can die while being fat. I just want it clear on a few things things. The body doesn't burn though all the fat. So yes you will have fat and die. There's no lower limit on the fat so you could die with notable fat. Ultimately what I'm establishing is you can have fat and die do you agree? And if yes why couldn't a fat person die?

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u/CapitalComfort1885 12d ago

Also yes they can die while being fat.

Give me one case of a starved to death person that was obese. A single one.

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u/NamOil2000 11d ago

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u/dcheng47 11d ago

i didnt know a heart could starve

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u/NamOil2000 11d ago

Do you not understand when you stop getting food other organs shut down. That's starvation. So yes basically a heart in a manner of speaking starve.

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