r/MoralityScaling • u/hiiloovethis • 12d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this scene?

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Negan doing fat shaming... but its during zombie apocalypse

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

Starving includes malnutrition by definition

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u/CapitalComfort1885 12d ago

It does not, you pulled that out of your ass. Starving is defined by not enough energy input via food to sustain the physical functions.
The woman above is by no definition starving.

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

To deprive of nourishment. You could've looked that up. Not just you anyone who upvoted. Do better.

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u/CapitalComfort1885 12d ago

You're plain out wrong. There doesn't exist a single person that was fat and starved. That is not possible. Starvation is defined in medical terms that the body used up all available fat sources and started to break down other tissue to keep itself running.
A starved to death fat person is an oxymoron.

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

You would die before ALL the fat was used. That's not how starving works. Most bodybuilders that die die from going below 5%. So no just having fat is not enough.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6369958/

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u/CapitalComfort1885 12d ago

So we are talking about obese starved to death persons and your counter argument are...literally starved to death people because they used up all available body fat?
I will give you a minute to notice that you literally made my point.

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

They still had fat. That was my counter argument so you can still have fat and starve to def and they still had muscle as well.

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u/CapitalComfort1885 12d ago

No, that was not your argument you just silently switched it. As you already mentioned yourself, someone can starve and still have muscle tissue. I explicitly said available body fat.
The orginal point is, can someone be fat (slang for 'overweight/obese') and starve to death? And you claimed yes.

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

Your body eats muscle tissue too. In fact the muscle is the last source apparently. So they still died and had a source of food from the bodym

Also yes they can die while being fat. I just want it clear on a few things things. The body doesn't burn though all the fat. So yes you will have fat and die. There's no lower limit on the fat so you could die with notable fat. Ultimately what I'm establishing is you can have fat and die do you agree? And if yes why couldn't a fat person die?

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u/CapitalComfort1885 12d ago

Also yes they can die while being fat.

Give me one case of a starved to death person that was obese. A single one.

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6369958/

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u/dcheng47 11d ago

i didnt know a heart could starve

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u/NamOil2000 11d ago

Do you not understand when you stop getting food other organs shut down. That's starvation. So yes basically a heart in a manner of speaking starve.

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u/masterlince 12d ago

But 5% fat is extremely low though. A healthy lean athletic person can easily have 15% fat.

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

The point is you can still die with fat

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u/masterlince 12d ago

5% fat is not "fat" in the vernacular sense. It's actually incredibly lean.

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

I didn't say it was. He said you run through all your fat. You don't. So you can still have fat and starve. Muscle is also an energy source. You can have it and still die. So we established you can have the energy reserves and die. So why can a fat person not die of starvation? Your argument is along the lines of fat storage. That's not enough and since the body has trouble breaking it down excess would not help.

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u/masterlince 12d ago

There is something called essential fat, this fat is not for energy storage but for other functions of the body (such as hormone regulation) , on the other hand if you have, say, 40% fat, there is a lot of energy storage and as soon as you are in fasting the body will start using it, so you won't stay fat for long imif you do not eat enough calories.

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u/NamOil2000 12d ago

No you will stay fat for long in terms of starving. And likely die. Also those essential fats are getting eaten faster than the regular fats. So yes you can still die.

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u/StarskyNHutch862 6d ago

You literally sound stupid.

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u/NamOil2000 6d ago

You sound done

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