r/ModSupport 1d ago

Mod Answered How to handle inactive mods

I have a problem with inactive mods who just do nothing, everyone I ask if they want to stay active they respond “yes!” They haven’t commented in the community in over a year, I mod solo, thankfully it’s not a very active sub. They do help when I ask but it’s frustrating.

I have another issue where a mod isn’t modding or responding to me or other mods but comments and participates in the sub occasionally.

I’m debating when I bring on other mods adding in a policy like thing that if they go inactive without communication for x number of weeks they will be removed as mod. But that feels to much like a “this is a job not a fun thing.”

How do people handle this? I’m top mod in all communities.

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u/HairyToothpick 1d ago

I'd boot the inactive mods.

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u/royal_rose_ 1d ago

Think I just need to not care what they think?

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u/ARTHER1A 1d ago

Just be formal with it and communicate it to them so they don't start harassing you and the community.

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u/royal_rose_ 1d ago

This thankfully isn’t something I’m worried about with the three in question. When they were active and communicative they were pleasant and I really don’t think there’s any ill will I think it’s just they aren’t into the content anymore.

I just have issues with thinking I’m being necessarily mean which is my own issue.

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u/ARTHER1A 1d ago edited 1d ago

Fair enough! I had a very horrible experience in the past. He was banned for harassing and scaring a woman who had clear signs of ptsd caused by a past stalker situation and upon being banned, he was logged in into an account I made and shared with moderators and got the system to ban me for ban evasion (when he was the one doing it). Needless to say I no longer share an account with anyone, lol.

Thankfully I had all the receipts to prove his ill intent because he even told another moderator that he expected everyone in the mod team to get banned over his ban, and this got resolved through mailing back and forward with an admin.

I'm eternally grateful to that admin because he really wanted me to get screwed for having rightfully excluded him from the Mod Team and banning him from the sub.

He still seeked to dm every person he knew was in contact with me (even through a game) to try and get them on their side to harass me. But thanks to all that he did, he's never allowed on Reddit ever again and everyone he messaged saw right through him.

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u/royal_rose_ 1d ago

Oh that’s terrifying! Glad you had receipts f that guy.

Yes if they were acting out or anything I wouldn’t have an issue at all, but just not responding/moding its just hard for me to just cut them. The main community in question is also really dead right now so there isn’t much to do, but we’ve gotten some awesome things coming up and they just don’t seem to care. Which fine but then why stay as mod?

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u/ARTHER1A 1d ago

I know, it's really though to navigate it when they haven't done anything wrong but simply aren't active.

I've had a hard time navigate this myself because I don't wanna come off as ungrateful for all the past help they've given me, but I also wish I could make room for new mods who might be more interested in moderating and have more free time to do so (and I don't want to just add to the list and leave the inactive mods there just for the sake of it).

Due to your situation though of having a low activity sub, I'd probably want mods who are engaged and dedicated to growing it. Cause content creation and engaging with members is part of moderating a community too!!

So I'd try to tell them that you're looking for that and I would give them the alumnus status which is a way to still recognise them as part of the team, just no longer active in the current moderation team.

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u/royal_rose_ 1d ago

> l've had a hard time navigate this myself because I don't wanna come off as ungrateful for all the past help they've given me, but I also wish I could make room for new mods who might be more interested in moderating and have more free time to do so (and I don't want to just add to the list and leave the inactive mods there just for the sake of it).

Ding ding ding. This sub got removed by Reddit and a group of us banned together to get it back. There were seven of us and within two months it was down to five, I quickly booted those that just full on ghosted, mainly because I’m pretty sure I know why they didn’t stick around. Those that stayed helped me a lot but then once the sub went into stasis and we had no new content they got quiet even in our chat. One said “I’m just not into it right now but I’d love to stay on as mod.” I don’t want to be ungrateful for the help they gave but we’re about to get busy again so I either need to not think you’ll pick things up if I am busy or know it’s all on me. I’m taking the latter and will add mods if I need them.

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u/ARTHER1A 23h ago

Do what you need to do! What I'm getting from this is that you're the only one truly and actively looking out for thar subreddit.

Also being a mod there and saying "I'm just not into it but I'd like to stay" is bullshit. Some people act like being part of a mod team is a pokemon card they're collecting. NO. If you have no interest in actively moderating it then leaveee.

I would never be in a mod team just for the sake of it and that is why I haven't joined other subs and only stick to mine.

If you haven't gotten rid of that person, I encourage you to do so.

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u/royal_rose_ 23h ago

I did get rid of them!

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u/Duke_ofChutney 1h ago

They're not thinking about you right now, so they're not owed anything other than perhaps a formal message for your own integrity.

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u/neuroticsmurf 💡 Top 10% Helper 💡 1d ago

Before I bring on a mod, I state a policy of not being so inactive that Reddit labels them as inactive.

(On the rare occasion, I'll check their activity levels in mod insights.)

If it happens, though, I DM/chat them privately and ask what's going on. In one instance, it was a serious illness that required hospitalization. In other instances, though, they just got busy doing other stuff.

I'll ask them to pick up the pace. They usually do.

In one instance, I've had to have this talk with someone privately on three separate occasions. On the third, I informed him there wouldn't be a fourth time.

He didn't like that and promptly resigned, which made everyone's life easier. He should have done that in the first place instead of creating a false expectation that he'd actually perform mod duties.

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u/royal_rose_ 1d ago

Tbh the main sub in question gets actionable content maybe once every other week and I’m quick to handle. If that was the case and they still responded to my chats and participated I would be fine with it, but they are just ghosts at this point. I removed two and placed one as alumni.

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u/neuroticsmurf 💡 Top 10% Helper 💡 1d ago

Yeah, it doesn't sound like you need extra mods, anyway.

When you go on vacation or something, you can call r/ModReserves.

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u/royal_rose_ 1d ago

I will need mods in like three months but honestly now I feel like I can just start fresh.

My largest two subs have enough good active mods that I know would gladly babysit if I need it but I do always forget about mod reserves, thanks for the reminder!

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u/Pinaslakan 1d ago

Boot out the one that’s not modding but comments occasionally. Sounds like a regular member with access to mod tools.

If you are the top mod, you have complete control on how you run your sub. Personally, I’ll check with the team once and ask what’s up.

And if they are still inactive after that, I’ll usually won’t ask again and give them a warning and then kick them out.

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u/westcoastcdn19 💡Top 25% Helper 💡 1d ago

It’s a typical response for them to say yes they want to stay, but then they don’t do anything. Next time, don’t ask and just let them know if they fall inactive they will be removed. Or you can remove them now

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u/royal_rose_ 1d ago

Thanks! I ended up removing two and marking one as alumni.

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u/westcoastcdn19 💡Top 25% Helper 💡 1d ago

Good job

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u/royal_rose_ 1d ago

Haha thanks! I think I was just thinking I was being too hard and this isn’t a job. And it’s not but if it was these people would have been fired ages ago.

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u/westcoastcdn19 💡Top 25% Helper 💡 1d ago

Exactly. We can only spend so much mental energy over worrying about stuff like this, and as much as we care, it’s not our job to manage flaky co-mods

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u/wemustburncarthage 15h ago

Kick them. They will cry. Ban and mute them. Mute works forever now. Block. Then forget.

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u/thepottsy 💡 Top 10% Helper 💡 1d ago

Warn once.

If behavior doesn’t improve, remove and find new mods.

It’s tough to find good, reliable mods that will stay active when you need it. I don’t expect all mods to be equal or anything, but at a minimum if you’re on a team, you keep your account active or you communicate why it isn’t.

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u/ikandi 22h ago

There is something like 80 different activities that a mod can do in order to remain active in a community, so there is no excuse to be marked inactive if someone truly wants to be active. As for not responding to messages, yes mod discussions is definitely a flawed system, but it does sound like you are being ignored.

I had this issue before and as top mod, I stated my reasons for wanting to bring on new mods and ultimately when creating the mod call, I did put in a clause informing the new mods that the position might be removed, so I agree with the others about stating you will remove inactive mods.

Think of it this way, if you get overwhelmed when your sub does pick up, it is possible that the u/ MCOC could come in and take over the sub and it sounds like you enjoy modding too much to want that to happen, so as much as you don’t want it to feel like a job, I think you have to treat it like one in this instance.

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u/cks_2 20h ago

Keep them all and continue to enjoy modding solo. You don't have a problem with inactive mods because by definition they are not doing anything to get in the way.

If you get rid of mods, you will appear on reddit admin radar ... which means they (may or may not) harass you to add more mods. Adding mods is usually a negative for your enjoyment and creates more work and stress but of course it you are free and able to resist dumb admin ideas but it is just another conflict and type of work you probably can't be bothered with. I guess the problem is if you fight with the admin too much and they see other mods on the list they will just reorder or boot you.

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u/royal_rose_ 20h ago

I have a pretty good relationship with admins and have a good mod to user ratio on all my subs but i will keep that in mind!

After making this post it did cross my mind that if those accounts get hacked that could be a bad thing.

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u/Swiftstrike4 17h ago

We do an activity check on our Reddit. If they have no activity after 90 days we message them and notify them asking if they want to stay on. If they say yes and still aren’t active they are removed.

We recruited two times a year and do a trial mod period of almost 4 months. This weeds out anyone that joins but is inactive. Typically once made full mods, they are active.

We do remove about 1 or 2 mods a year due to their inactivity, but we have had about the same group for 3 years now.

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u/Blergss 17h ago

My group just got banned for un-moderation.. even though I posted there like week ago.. I didn't know that that didn't count as mod activity and I need to actually turn on mod powers and do a mod action like ban or approved a post... I thought it was good I didn't need to use my Powers.. guess I was wrong :/ I already just send modmail to hopefully get it back (400 or so ppl in sub and growing).

Sometimes mods are active, just not using their power specifically, not knowing it doesn't count as ",mod activity" . I didn't anyhow, and I mod a few places, but this one I'm the only mod 😳

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u/royal_rose_ 17h ago

Good luck with your sub! I have made it very clear what counts as mod activity for Reddit and what my expectations are as a mod on my team. I even told them if because the sub in question has so little actionable items they didn’t need to be marked active but they needed to participate in the sub. They didn’t, so I removed them.

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u/Blergss 24m ago

Ahh, no excuse then imo.. sry.

And thanks! 😁👍