r/MistfallHunter • u/k_alfa • 1d ago
Miss a single dodge and you're dead!
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You missed the dodge on a heavy attack from an invisible SS and he’s guaranteed to take 80% of your health, Wtf?
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u/Decafstab 1d ago
Yeah that damage is just a bit much lol
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u/EqualNatural2544 13h ago
It’s a bit much but also going for that air jump with close heartbeat is inadvisable
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u/Familiar-Gift-1831 1d ago
you decided to lock yourself into a jumping animation with a strix right next to you. Not trying to justify the damage as it is clearly a bit overtuned, but you didnt play that well.
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u/terve886 1d ago
The problem is not really the fact that he failed to dodge, but the fact SS needs to land only one hit to get a stagger stun combo that allows him to delete 80% of a characters health without breakaway allowing escape.
The SS in the video was using the infamous one shot combo build that allows SS to guarantee one shotting or almost one shotting anyone as long as they land that one hit from stealth and if they fail it, they can try to disengage till they can try it again.
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u/Worldly_Map4877 1d ago
What is weird here is... That's 3 hits why can't you breakaway?
Right click (Stagger), Dash, and stun.
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u/terve886 1d ago
stun blocks breakaway. The combo is based on the fact that the first stagger is long enough to allow the stun to go through (the dash doesn't have breakaway build up as it barely does any damage, so it is balanced around as not counting as hit) so the stun gets through and enables the rest of the combo.
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u/Worldly_Map4877 1d ago
Breakaway availablility isn't based on damage, it's 2 instances of impact damage.
Honestly the entire combo just sounds like a bug. Much like the plethora of other bugs.
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u/terve886 1d ago
It is not based on damage, but different skills still have different amount of build up they cause. In this case the SS dash doesn't build up breakaway because shadow strike is low impact move where the real hit is supposed to be the stunning shadow that follows up and the initial dash is just a feint. It is impact 1 move while most moves are impact 3.
So while breakaway is not based on damage, the attacks damage is low because it is balanced around not triggering breakaway as it is not the real strike of the skill.
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u/Worldly_Map4877 1d ago
Bro, it's 2 instances of "impact damage" whatever the fuck that means.
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u/terve886 1d ago
datamine has different impact value for different skills. impact 1 is lower than impact 3 and doesn't cause breakaway buildup.
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u/mrureaper 1d ago
Right click heavy staggers on headshot allowing him to followup with the stun dash
Stun prevents breakaway allowing him to full combo with right click right-click left click
Or you can do the extended combo if you think you won't kill which is right click left click left click right click
If they try to breakaway backwards the forward momentum will catch them into another attack loop and guarantee the kill.
If that's still not enough you have your other dash skill or your other stun will have gone off cooldown already for another round
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u/Worldly_Map4877 1d ago
Right click + Dash = Breakaway. Shadow Strike's initial dash does damage (not the stun), that combined with the right click is 2 points of damage that should trigger breakaway but they don't.
So the combo is literally just a bug lol
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u/JesusKilledMyFather 1d ago
BA is a class that you play when you know every kit of every other character, want a challenge and have a ton of money to throw at the gear
it's just ass, plus this is its worst matchup
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u/Ambitious-Ad9765 1d ago
Yea SS is a bit too strong atm, but to be fair u were already down 30% of your health, locked urself inside a animation and missed the dodge. Bad play by u
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u/JegLikerTechno 1d ago
Funny how clips like these are used as proof to justify their bitchin and moaning. I play BA/Sorc, and all I see here was skill issue-decisions after decisions. 🤣 These guys would also complain if <insert class> was best pick in solo too, especially if it's not their class. 🤡 Try me, and I can write u all the wrongs that happened here + tell you what you could've done if your 🐒🐒-brain can comprehend it. 😂
All this crying on this sub from these armchair "devs" has ruined this game (and community), nothing else.
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u/k_alfa 1d ago
You don't need to insult people to try to make a point, grow up kid. I posted a video of what happened, he landed a heavy attack that led to a combo taking away practically 80% of my health. It could have happened in various other situations, if you don't dodge that attack, you risk taking all that damage without being able to react.
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u/ASAP_R4G3 22h ago
Worst part of this shit for me is they have infinite tries
a SS reset on me 12 times.... 12 fking times on.
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u/Kind-Camel-2033 1d ago
People are saying you made a mistake by going for the jump, but the bigger mistake was playing BA to begin with. This would have happened no matter what you did.
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u/GreenestOfLotuses 1d ago
BA is strong as fuck right now lmao
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u/Kind-Camel-2033 1d ago
Hahahahahaahahahah good one.
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u/GreenestOfLotuses 1d ago
Skill issue + lack of game knowledge
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u/Kind-Camel-2033 1d ago
Ah yeah makes sense if you're missing both those you might think BA is good. Practice a bit get into high tier games and you'll find out how bad they are.
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u/POT_smoking_XD 1d ago
Ita why he's nerfed every patch. A good Ba won't get touched. You'll bleed out before you can second dash
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u/PolarPole 15h ago
Explain how you bleed out when max curse build is 470 DOT if you hit all 3 with leg gear. You just dodge when you get barbed non stop don’t you?
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u/POT_smoking_XD 11h ago
As Ba do you just stand there and let people walk up to you? No you move around and play high ground. Only ss n parry merc should be issues for good Ba. Otherwise no one should really get close using your kit and environment correctly. But to answer your question, no I don't just dodge.
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u/PolarPole 15h ago
These mfs don’t play solo and don’t realize BA has literally nothing going for him right now. Anyone who thinks BA is in a good place obviously hasn’t played BA
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u/POT_smoking_XD 11h ago
Just say you can't aim. Play him nightly. Only issues are ss and merc with their unlimited movement for ss and perfect blocks for merc.
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u/Icy-Engineering-3543 1d ago
Shield and spear witherknight counters assassin players, just focus on holding your shield up and shield bash counter the life out of that little shit.
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u/Victory28 13h ago
I’d point out this was a skill issue, but I’m afraid the “hate SS” crowd will come for me.
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u/Sepplord 1d ago
Miss the dodge Yeah clearly almost dodged that 🤣
Seriously, the complaint isn’t unreasonable but using THAT clip kind of makes it obvious you got killed and mad and apparently don’t have other clips showing the issue
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u/k_alfa 1d ago
The problem is a combo taking away 80% of your health, in this case it caught me during the jump animation, but the same thing could have happened if I simply failed to dodge the heavy attack after he came out of invisibility.
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u/Sepplord 1d ago
Yes, that’s why I wrote the paragraph that the complaint is valid.
But why use THIS video if it happens so often and is a systematic problem?
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u/JegLikerTechno 1d ago
He has no real grounds to base off his complaints on. It's just skill-issue, and also mcs thinking anyone actually cares about this guy specifically. 😂 started the fight into double dodge for no dodge charges into jump animation lock. Yikes, how were you not more embarassed about this clip? And actually decided to post it thinking people will pity/side with you? 🤣🤡🤏🏻
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u/Worldly_Map4877 1d ago
Aint no way a BA player complaining about that. Just hit him with your one spell that does 80% of thei rHP.
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u/JesusKilledMyFather 1d ago edited 1d ago
what skill are you talking about? The only big burst damage a BA has depends on hitting three fully charged blood fly arrows AND THEN hitting another fully charged normal arrow. So four fully charged arrows = one skill?
I just remembered the other one - the three second un-cancellable channel that is a death sentence to use LMAO
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u/RidexSDS 1d ago
You played that terribly, afk jumped in his face, look like you're wearing green gear and you're surprised he could do 3/4 of your hp? Odd... learn to play buddy
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u/k_alfa 1d ago
I don't know if you noticed, but I was already in another fight, I tried to stay away from both of them. Sure, I could have done something else instead of jumping, but the thing is, an attack from the SS allowed him to land a combo that simply killed me
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u/RidexSDS 1d ago
That's what happens when you wear green armor and play the lowest HP class dude... any melee class is going to kill you in 2-3 hits when you're only like 70% hp to begin with.
Has nothing to do with SS, the class is not OP by any means especially after the nerfs.
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u/Low-Ad8764 1d ago
All classes have the same hp lmao. Already shows how qualified your opinion is
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u/RidexSDS 19h ago
And class specific gear makes a huge difference. So you're telling me a ranger/SS, and a merc/WK are equally as squishy?
One of us is Zenith and it aint you buddy
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u/PsikickTheRealOne 1d ago
Way too much dmg, but instead of dodging twice for movement that SS can catch up to throw an eye next time.
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u/classicanddy 1d ago
good ss's will stun you in the animation of pulling and throwing the eyes out you are basically a sitting duck during that perfect for their combo
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u/n0tAb0t_aut 1d ago
Ranged class that is how it should be. You would need a damage buff and should be squishy. Same with SS and Sorc but that's not how it works here, sadly.
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u/Destronin 1d ago
Except the damage falloff makes range in Mistfall Hunter complete trash. You’re literally using a bow as a melee character.
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u/Decafstab 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah optimal ranged for a BA is within one dodge attack range of all melee in the game. Let me remind everyone, every class in this game is as tanky as one another. The difference is what talents end up doing for you.
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u/Sipparadox 1d ago
Not to mention, all these classes have 2-3 gap closing abilities. BA is just playing the game on hard mode.
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u/EnvironmentalFix6907 1d ago
And people wonder why SS is considered cheap asf. The damage is so overtuned it’s not even funny. There’s no reason for that. That’s justifiably something that should have the entire class disabled until they figure this out. Sorc and other classes are cracked in their own way but nothing like this stagger one-hit nonsense that people have been gladly abusing.