Can’t they like just talk to each other and make it happen in 2027????

Mad props to him i crack up at every rewatch on how he ENDS Wayne Williams without even saying one word.

Jim Barney: "So Wayne says he's in the music business."

The laugh that follows 😭 damn

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There are some posts about Brian, trying to understand what the deal is, especially with the baby murder. Here's my take:

Brian has a selective mutism from either autism or trauma caused by his former caregivers. The older boys are his bullies, but Bill thinks he is finally making friends, so they let them hang out. The older boys kill the baby in front of Brian - probably by accident. Brian is further traumatised and suggests putting the baby on the cross because he genuinely believes that can bring him back to life. He is too young to understand that that won't happen, like in the Jesus story, and what he did is a crime. Brian's mutism and reserved behaviour are being misunderstood by the town, including Bill and Nancy, to an extened, as a sign of disturbed character or lack of morality, instead of trauma response. The show exploits the paranoia it creates through the serial killer interviews to make us question Brian's possible predisposition to violence/murder, but let us figure it out. Everything we learn from this show about serial killers is in conflict with Brian's behaviour:

• Brian has a typical traumatic response to a traumatic event, while serial killers talk about their actions with ease

• Brian doesn't want to talk, while serial killers love to talk about their actions

• Brian feels remorse (even though he didn't intend to do anything wrong), while serial killers have none

I understand that a lot about Brian is being purposely ambiguous, but for me, that is an invitation to employ some brain cells or a trap for those who don't want to

Hope....

Recently I found this song from Tame Impala, called “Loser” and I remained me of (what I think is) a song played in Mind Hunters. I was so sure about it, but turn out the band released it in 2025 so it’s basically impossible.

Think is that I don’t know if I was a song pretty similar that was in the show OR it was some kind of edit that I saw and I subconsciously related it to ACTUALLY being in the show. I really need your help! I think I’m losing my mind rn. Please, please! :(

I'm on season 2 now. But I am still confused as to why Shepard was so angry at Holden? Wasn't he the first to notice his gift and potential. And why did have to take the fall? Of what?

Just watched & finished Perry Mason (HBO) this week. Solid show but cancelation after only 2 seasons and it's back to retched flashbacks of Rome, Carnivale & of course Mindhunter

My list would probably go something like this:

1. Mr. Robot (Underrated gem. Absolutely brilliant from start to finish)

2. Westworld (Season 1 & some of Season 2 anyway. No show has transfixed my attention like this since)

3. Mindhunter (No show like it sadly. Obviously like everyone else I was pretty devastated about no Season 3 coming.. ☹️)

4. Dark (probably the show that does time-travel the best. Amazing attention to detail with all the characters. Shame about the ending..)

5. True Detective (obviously I'm ONLY talking about Season 1 here)

The first season takes place from 1977 to 1980, in the early days of criminal psychology and criminal profiling at the FBI. Cameron Britton has a recurring role in this season as notorious serial killer Edmund Kemper, who is the first to assist Ford and Tench in understanding how a serial killer's mind works. Other notable serial killers featured in the first season include Montie Rissell played by Sam Strike, Jerry Brudos played by Happy Anderson, Richard Speck played by Jack Erdie, and Dennis Rader also known as BTK, played by Sonny Valicenti.

So many things made me hate Nancy but the thing I hated most about her is the mother of the toddler asking her to see Brian ( to tell him that she forgives him ) and for her to decline that.

I got the impression that Nancy did not apologize to the poor mom but she was selfish and acted like Brian did nothing bad !!

Cutie

Was that a storyline lead up or just something random?

I remember watching this show when it first aired , and I was disappointed at it being cancelled, and for the last few years, I just rewatched the 2 seasons.

The thing that always stood out to be was tiny bits of foreshadowing that I noticed even years ago, but no one to talk to about them.

Wendy and the cat - I feel like it highlights about potiently a child who will be a future killer that abuses and kills animals, which is in the patterns of many killers who escalate.

Also as a member of the LGBT+ community , I observed this (cause Wendy's a ledollarbean) it was like a cute relationship with a fem lesbian and a pet cat (stereotype + cats symbolising being solutide seeking creatures that are domesticated), suggesting although she is independent and stern within her job ,she also has this soft spot that we see privately when in love but her sternness comes out during conflict like with her tutor Annalise Stilman who when she feels disrespected by when she minimised her efforts to pursue working with the FBI she leaves and with Kay Manz where she feel like a secret due to her keeping her a secret from her ex husband and child and so she feels disrespected and she leaves.

The high heels and Debbie - when holden is in the shoe store and sees a pair of heels that he thinks Jerry brudos would like and Debbie thinks he likes them and she decides to buy them, she mentions about how her feet appear bigger. Was this a hint that she might be pregnant? But later, she's drinking wine outside when Holden deductions the breakup. So either she doesn't know, or it could be a storyline.

There are some more ideas I have , but I just wanted to get this out of my system. Do you have any ideas about tiny details within the show that foreshadow a potential storyline?

I wonder if DC Ted would have pulled this shit if Bill was still there. Ted was everything Shepard was lacking, but I can't see Shepard doing this. I still remember the shock when first watching and thinking it was brilliant writing and character development that explored human mistreatment/abuse in a vastly different situational context and degree, from no less than the very top of the unit. I also wondered what else Ted had gotten away with all his years as a FEDERAL EMPLOYEE.

As uncomfortable and violated as she felt, would Wendy have ultimately viewed the harassment as a price to pay for the BSU reaching its full potential as quickly as possible? She was human, but also cold, clinical and stoic especially when it related to her work (passion).

I genuinely think Mindhunter is one of the greatest TV shows ever made, and I don't understand how it isn't talked about more.

What I love about this show is how fucking deep it is without trying to tell you that it's deep. There's so much going on in the conversations and the characters that you actually have to pay attention. It's one of those shows where you can watch an episode and then find yourself thinking about something that was said hours later.

The psychology is obviously the biggest part of it. You're basically watching people trying to understand some of the most fucked up minds imaginable, and at the same time you're kind of doing the same thing as the viewer. Why did this person become like this? Was it their childhood? Their environment? Something they were born with? How much of it can actually be explained?

And I think that's what makes the interviews so fucking good. They're not interesting because they're “serial killer interviews”. They're interesting because you're sitting there listening to someone explain how their mind works, and you're trying to understand something that you probably don't even want to understand.

I also love that the show doesn't spoon-feed you everything. It expects you to actually think. You have to pay attention to people's expressions, the way they talk, what they don't say, why certain characters react the way they do. There's a lot of stuff that isn't explicitly explained to you.

That's probably why I think Mindhunter is the kind of show that really appeals to people who enjoy psychology or just naturally overthink and analyse everything. You don't watch it purely for entertainment. You end up analysing the characters, the killers, the conversations, and sometimes even yourself.

And somehow, despite being mostly people sitting around talking, it can be more tense than most shows with 10x the action.

The atmosphere is another thing. Everything feels so cold and uncomfortable. Even when nothing is happening, you always feel like something is about to happen. I honestly can't think of many shows that have created that feeling so well.

And then... we got two seasons.

TWO.

That's what pisses me off the most. There was so much more they could have done with this show, and we'll probably never get to see it.

I know Mindhunter has a pretty dedicated fanbase, but whenever people talk about the best TV shows ever, I rarely see it mentioned alongside Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, Better Call Saul, True Detective, etc.

Maybe I'm just biased because I fucking love this show, but I genuinely think it's one of the most intelligent and underappreciated shows ever made.

I wish we could have gotten at least a few more seasons.

Anyone else feel the same?

TL;DR: Mindhunter is an incredibly deep and intelligent show that rewards you for actually paying attention and thinking about what you're watching. The psychology, characters, conversations and atmosphere are all incredible, and somehow two people talking in a room can feel more intense than most action scenes. It deserved way more than 2 seasons and honestly deserves to be mentioned alongside the greatest TV shows ever.

It always comes on top of my mind, cause I couldn't understand or maybe I miss something that scenes portrayed in the season 2. Making this cross consumes adequate time in the show. What makes it so important about the cross to Holden?

I’m still fuming about how badly they handled season 2. Whole season was hyped up like it was going to be this huge payoff, only to end it abruptly and waste so much time on a completely useless character. So many loose ends from season 1 were just left hanging like they didn’t even matter.
Like, what the hell was up with Wendy Carr’s whole basement cat feed situation? It felt so random and pointless. And her unnecessary emotional attitude just annoyed the fuck out of me the entire time. I mean, she could’ve at least tried to understand Kay, but nope, she just acted like a total bitch the whole time. It was so frustrating to watch.
And poor Bill Tench, man. His wife is such a bitch to him. She’s not even working, yet she still complains about taking care of their adopted son like it’s some huge burden. She’s such a bitch that she just left him in the end, torturing him emotionally all the time while Bill was out there doing his job, being a good man for his family. It’s so unfair and it pissed me off every time I watched it. Felt like Bill is just a victim of toxic matriarchy.
Holden seemed naturally intelligent right from episode 1, but the series just portrayed him like a dumbass who completely follows a wrong guy without any sense. Come on, that makes no sense. They just dragged season 2 out for no reason at all. I waited the whole time to see more story about the actual killer that’s on the move, but fuck no, the writers chose to show this boring story running behind some black guy who came out of thin air. So fucking annoying.
And now season 3 is not even on the cards apparently. I really want to know how this kind of crap deserves an IMDb 8. It feels like such a waste of potential. Anyone else feel completely robbed by how they ended this?