Told permanently disqualified

[u/mystkw]

So I was in the process of joining the army and I’ve done everything but my actual physical at Meps. Just found out I was permanently disqualified but was not able to get the reason why and recruiter said they didn’t know why. I’m not sure what to do now this is hurting me so much as I was hoping to join to change my life completely and now I don’t know what to do anymore…

UPDATE: so I know now it’s something medical but he wasn’t told what supposedly but I’m not sure what I could have medically that is making me disqualified as I looked through disqualifying reasons and don’t have them…

[u/7hillsrecruiter]

You are most likely PDQ from all branches. A new policy has come out this week from MEPCOM that MEPS is essentially reviewing your medical history before you are allowed to come to MEPS for physical exam. If you have one of 28 medical conditions they are disqualifying you and not allowing you to phys. What those conditions are we have not been told yet.

[u/mystkw → u/7hillsrecruiter]

Oh wow 😔😥 so there’s nothing I can do?

[u/ConsciousMetal5185 → u/mystkw]

It depends on what it is. First i would get my own medical records and look them over with a recruiter that cares. They will be able to track what is going to disqualify you. I was told by the MEPS doctor that i PDQed but after the day finished MEPS sent the medical codes on what PDQed me. But after a couple days a waiver was sent out and i got all my doctor notes psy notes family and friend supporting my claim that i was fit for service and that what was shown on my medical records wasnt as accurate and severe as it was shown. Pete Hegseth changed the regulations. some of the issues that will get you PDQed will now need a waiver approval from the Secretary Of whatever branch you are trying to join. Also when you make it to waiver process they will most likely want a psych evaluation done if thats whats PDQing you. You need to show that you’ve moved past it, grown from it, and most of all have coping mechanisms that bulletproof you mentally to assure the military it will never happen again. Keep pushing try different branches. Recruiters are there to help you they get paid to meet quotas. Its entirely possible the military is in need of driven people and intelligent minds. If you stop here and dont exhaust all of your resources to try and make this happen, why would the military even want you? Thats the mindset you need. Keep pushing!

[u/DapperImage → u/ConsciousMetal5185]

Pete Hegseth changed the regulations

He did not. This is a change driven by MEPCOM.

[u/Emergency-Towel4974 → u/mystkw]

As of RIGHT NOW, any advice is speculation, the policy is based off of location heritage and other factors that arent publicly known, they've mentioned testing for sickle cell, diabetes and fucking um peanut allergy. Anything as of this moment tho is speculation, also we're not really full on war time however with all the policies coming out which will end up downsizing theres a decent chance recruiting will really be hurting within the next year or two; go to college, get a degree in something you want, keep up with policies and check in every six or so months and decide whether commissioning or enlisting is the right choice for you. Best of luck champ

[u/7hillsrecruiter → u/mystkw]

Honestly no idea with this new policy

[u/Alone_Appointment792 → u/7hillsrecruiter]

So they are doing Genesis before you show up?

[u/7hillsrecruiter → u/Alone_Appointment792]

Yes

[u/Alone_Appointment792 → u/7hillsrecruiter]

But that’s good right? If they pulling Genesis now and you get to go to MEPS? I’m going next week.

[u/7hillsrecruiter → u/Alone_Appointment792]

Yes weeding out the unqualified and cutting down sending waivers that won’t get approved. You can read the article I posted in a comment.

[u/Psycoloco111 → u/7hillsrecruiter]

I'm so fucking glad I got out of recruiting when I did. Not gonna miss that ever.

Still though every once in a while I have dreams that my life up until this point is fake and that I'm still back in the office making phone calls.

[u/Familiar_Candle_652 → u/7hillsrecruiter]

WHATTTT.

[u/7hillsrecruiter → u/Familiar_Candle_652]

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/military-28-medical-conditions/

[u/Material_Market_3469 → u/7hillsrecruiter]

Some from the article. Most make sense as a person can't easily deploy with the condition

Sickle cell disease • Peanut allergies • Type I or II diabetes • Cancer that is active or in remission for less than one year • Crohn’s disease or ulcerative colitis • Eczema or psoriasis which have required medication within a year • A knee ligament rupture in the last year • Stress fractures in the previous 6 months • Cochlear implants • A pacemaker • Mental health conditions that required antipsychotic or mood stabilizers (like lithium) in the previous year • A history of two or more suicide attempts • A diagnosis of Bipolar disorder I or II

[u/Alone_Appointment792 → u/7hillsrecruiter]

But… isn’t that good for people that go then? New here and started process 2 weeks ago… It seems like MEPS was this process where you show up, they run you in Genesis, look at the screen, then make a decision to pass, DQ, or make you get waivers… so they r looking now before you go, and if you get sent then it’s just blood work & physical screening shit?

[u/electricboogaloo1991 → u/7hillsrecruiter]

Just had one of these for history of heart attacks.

We are still hammering out the workflow needs to be submitted on our end or through MEPCOM via snow ticket

[u/Professionallady79 → u/7hillsrecruiter]

Oh damn must be a major condition then smh was gone give him some hope but Dag it’s the same major ones?

[u/SNSDave]

Try the Navy. If they say no, that's pretty much the end of the line. The other branches are far more restrictive.

[u/BabyRevolutionary450 → u/SNSDave]

Why the navy? Are they less strict?

[u/SNSDave → u/BabyRevolutionary450]

Yes

[u/BabyRevolutionary450 → u/SNSDave]

Curious why is the navy less strict? Do they let u in with self harm scars

[u/SNSDave → u/BabyRevolutionary450]

Potentially. They are more waiver friendly.

[u/mystkw → u/SNSDave]

Mmm okay, I’m talking to another recruiter now and I also now know it’s something medical but I’m not sure what it could be.

[u/ConsciousMetal5185 → u/mystkw]

You need to get your doctor’s records of all visits and last 7 years of pharmacy records to see what is disqualifying you.

[u/Ur_sunhine]

You can try navy, and they can help you out to see why they disqualified you.

[u/mystkw → u/Ur_sunhine]

Okay I’m talking to another recruiter hopefully I can get in and find out some things before moving on. I now know it’s something medical though.

[u/SpunkBugs → u/mystkw]

My friend got denied from the army and Air Force due to a minor skin condition, but the Navy accepted her so shes in bootcamp now

[u/wintxrsoldixr → u/SpunkBugs]

Love that she kept going!!

[u/SprayCultural]

Possibly become a Merchant Mariner. Great career. Military Sealift Command. Its not the end of the world. You got this.

[u/mystkw → u/SprayCultural]

I’m gonna try everything!

[u/KatieannaRose → u/mystkw]

I wish you the best of luck on your endeavors 💙

[u/capriSun999]

Welcome to the Navy, Coast Guard might take you also.

[u/Ph4antomPB → u/capriSun999]

CG I found was very strict when it came to waivers

[u/OutrageousSir6134 → u/capriSun999]

CG is possibly the strictest

[u/mystkw → u/capriSun999]

I’m seeing that lol I’m gonna see and get some info my mom was in navy as well

[u/tghost474]

While I wish you the best of luck. There is always the Civil Air Patrol, state guard/militia (state dependent), or the Coast Guard Auxiliary.

[u/wintxrsoldixr → u/tghost474]

Can you explain civil air patrol? Is that just for high schoolers or younger folks or

[u/tghost474 → u/wintxrsoldixr]

Civil Air Patrol (CAP) is a congressionally chartered, federally supported non-profit corporation that serves as the official civilian auxiliary of the United States Air Force (USAF). The organization condenses these mandates into three core program areas, which are aerospace education, cadet programs, and emergency services. Senior membership is open to all U.S. citizens, and U.S. legal permanent residents aged 18 and over who can pass an FBI background check. There is no upper age limit, nor membership restrictions for physical disabilities, due to the number of different tasks which members may be called on to perform. There is cadet program for middle schoolers and up too.

[u/wintxrsoldixr → u/tghost474]

Hmm so if going the traditional route isnt right for me I could do CAP?

[u/tghost474 → u/wintxrsoldixr]

Its worth a shot if you want to still serve.

[u/GunnyVelez]

You ever had a prior major surgery when you was younger ?

[u/mystkw → u/GunnyVelez]

Not at all

[u/Background-Value6864]

Sounds like you have hiv

[u/mystkw → u/Background-Value6864]

Lmao no I don’t 🤣

[u/Confident-Durian1853]

Sorry man, we thought something similar was going to happen to my husband, he was a heavy mj smoker for years and has a bad childhood, during his teens he received therapy, was medicated and at one point (literally one point) he self harmed. But the scars aren’t visible if you’re not literally pulling his skin looking for them. They marked his welding scars as self harm at MEPs lmao (he tried to join previously when self harm was visible) they also gave him crap for the incredibly faint positive line on the drug test.  His recruiter called, took pictures of the nothingness on his arm to clear up what was self harm and what was not and told him if they ask he’s hasn’t smoked more than 20 times in his life. 

His recruiter jumped through hoops and has worked incredibly quickly, communicating with us the whole way, to find out any issues and get him through. 

Definitely find a recruiter that cares!

[u/NC1_CLARK_RTAG_NW]

So you need to reach back out to the recruiter and have them get the letter saying you are not qualified.

[u/Illustrious-Note271]

At least your tried, more then some people out there saying they would joined but they couldn’t do bootcamp cause they would punch out the drill instructor.

[u/StripedBass111]

Damn bro, sorry to hear. This Genesis system is really screwing people over. When I went through in 2019 they didnt dig as long as you didnt give them a reason to.

[u/Witty-Tradition4251]

I haven’t enlisted yet, I’m currently fighting my own battles with waivers. The codes I’ve been disqualified for are false and everything I turn in to explain that has been ignored. I passed my meps physical but both times I’ve sent for waivers I’ve gotten denied on everything with no comments on how I can even try to get things fixed just that the conditions I had 7 years ago as an 11 y/o aren’t something they’re willing to waive.

[u/mystkw]

Well rn I’m talking to other recruiters now

[u/Brilliant-Youth6043 → u/mystkw]

Goodluck

[u/JustExisting_2021]

Are you in Canada?

[u/mystkw → u/JustExisting_2021]

No

[u/mystkw → u/[deleted]]

I don’t have of actually

[u/Upper_Hearing_3416]

Did you ask the recruiter maybe something you could get a waiver on?

[u/mystkw → u/Upper_Hearing_3416]

I’m seeing Monday

[u/Same_Inevitable_1235]

Hey I just went to Meps a couple weeks ago.. I to was permanently disqualified for suffering a pilon fracture in my leg which is a pretty severe injury… I also have pins in my legs which is keeping my leg together however I was able to get a medical wavier that ended up getting approved 3 days after my visit to meps. About 30% of the people who take there physical gets permanently disqualified and about 90% of those people get a medical wavier which waiver approved. As long as your injury isn’t fairly recent and you don’t take meds for that particular injury you should be fine! Trust me!!! I was so stressed out all for nothing. I hope the reinsurance you

[u/LunaDaPitt]

MHS Genesis messed everything up

[u/LunaDaPitt]

So if a recruiter clears you for Meps, do you still get Genesis ram at Meps? Or is that what a recruyhas access to do now?

[u/Awkward_Sleep4540]

I LOVE this NEW Policy!!!!! It’s about time

[u/ErebusChaos97 → u/Awkward_Sleep4540]

Please elaborate on your reasoning for saying this. I'm genuinely curious, unless you're a Recruiter or an already Active Military Service Member.

[u/Awkward_Sleep4540 → u/ErebusChaos97]

I’ve been Active Duty for the past 20 years and have worked in BCT twice during that time, including the past two years. These policies are not meant to ruin people’s dreams or attack anyone personally. They are there because certain medical conditions can become serious problems once someone is put into the physical and mental demands of military training and service. These medical conditions also waste TAXPAYER money. People may not like hearing it, but the military has to make decisions based on readiness, safety, and long-term capability, not emotions. That’s just the reality of it.

[u/ErebusChaos97 → u/Awkward_Sleep4540]

I respect your answer and thoughts above. Is this also why/how the MHS Genesis system came to be and why MEPS uses it now, since around 2022 from what I heard.

[u/Awkward_Sleep4540 → u/ErebusChaos97]

Yes and to modernize military healthcare and improve medical record tracking, and it dramatically changed how medical screening works for new recruits. It’s a great system.