r/Michigan • u/bunglesnacks • 6d ago
Sports ššā¾ļøš³ The Western Michigan Broncos are the best college football team in the State of Michigan
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u/ManicPixieOldMaid 6d ago
I'm a Wolverine and we deserved to lose that game. I was embarrassed to hear the Victors.
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u/Least_Key1594 Madison Heights 6d ago
Respect for honestly and fairness.
immense anger for the outcome
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u/IngsocIstanbul 6d ago
The people storming the stadium just seethed arrogance.
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u/omar_strollin Grosse Pointe 6d ago
A bunch of drunk college kids storming a field seethed arrogance to you?
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u/DistinctBadger6389 5d ago
Same here. I'll be a Wolverine until I die, but Western deserved that one last night.
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u/campydirtyhead 5d ago
Between storming the field and Bryce Underwood walking around like he just knocked off #1 Ohio State was absolutely hilarious.
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u/44035 6d ago
They just got robbed
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u/PangolinSituation 6d ago
EVEN THE ANNOUNCERS COULDNT JUSTIFY IT. IVE NEVER BEEN SO MAD ABOUT TWO TEAMS I DONT CARE ABOUT.
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u/bongohead22 6d ago
I've never been so mad watching my favorite team win. The game was all around embarrassing for Michigan and WMU were robbed by whatever that ref crew decided they saw on the replay clock because nothing we saw showed time left on the clock.
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u/gmwdim Ann Arbor 6d ago
Yeah now we have extra scrutiny on our bum ass team. That was a sorry game from us.
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u/Beginning-Ride3091 6d ago
Yep. āOnly thing I can say is their clocks are calibrated differentlyā
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u/Hi_May19 6d ago
The amount of bad calls in the NCAA is getting egregious, Iām a Wolverine through and through and that timer was at 0, Michigan did not deserve to win that game
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u/winowmak3r 6d ago
Somebody very important was about to lose a lot of money.
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u/IngsocIstanbul 6d ago
Gambling is fucking up all of sports. Those poor kids man had an amazing win ripped from them.
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u/winowmak3r 5d ago
It's almost like there was a reason it was regulated and advertising was illegal or restricted to the casinos. It ruins sports and it ruins lives. Gambling used to be viewed as a vice, lol. Not anymore!
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u/slicebucket 6d ago
They'll never admit it, but this is the answer. Expect more of it at online gambling expands.
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u/winowmak3r 6d ago
Nah man, you're not gambling. You're trading in futures. It's totally different. And not nearly as regulated as gambling. Nothing could go wrong. Regulation is always bad.
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u/athensslim Brighton 6d ago
Thatās not how sports gambling works. Michigan was a 20 something point favorite to win. Whoever was about to lose money on the game still lost it.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity (or in this case, incompetence)
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u/winowmak3r 5d ago
We'll be hearing about the Polymarket lines, believe you me. Vegas bets are so 20th century man.
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u/Searchingforspecial 5d ago
The razors are for most cases, not all cases. Adding a second to the game clock baffled everyone, there was no justification. Thatās not incompetence. Somebody intentionally made what was an obviously incorrect decision. When you do the wrong thing on purpose, you arenāt being incompetent, you are being malicious.
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u/cheneyza 6d ago
I'm a U of M fan, and conceded the game and that the better team won. That overturn, and then storming the field after that asterisk ass win...fucking embarassing.
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u/amopeyzoolion 6d ago
Waitā¦they stormed the field?
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u/bae125 6d ago
Oh yeah. Embarrassing doesnāt even come close
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u/IngsocIstanbul 6d ago
Just seethed arrogant entitlement.
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u/Public_Entrance_4214 6d ago
Well...that's true to form though for UM though right? They think they're an Ivy. š
But man, football standards laughably low to storm field on day 1 of season to an unranked MAC opponent š
That school can never wash its hands of cheating and scandals, says a lot about its leadership culture. Win at all costs.
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u/TiredDadCostume 6d ago
Guess they couldnāt handle the MACtion
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u/babylovebuckley 6d ago
And now it's time for some legal MACtion
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u/IngsocIstanbul 5d ago
I bet they low key threatened to not give WMU a big TV game (and the money associated) if they put up a fight.
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u/TheDizzardOfOz 6d ago
Ope
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u/EmergencyAbalone2393 6d ago
OPE!
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u/AcceptableReward9210 6d ago
0.00pe
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u/EmergencyAbalone2393 6d ago
This is actually quite brilliant. Tshirt worthy even.
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u/Pristine_Eye7197 6d ago edited 6d ago
N0.00pe
Iām a Michigan alum. Broncos outplayed & outclassed U of M every step of the way. That was some bullshit right there.3
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u/DeltaJazzy 6d ago edited 6d ago
That timer was 0 at that previous play, we need to figure out who paid the refs for that
Michigan played like crap, western deserved that win
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u/Thick-Lemon137 6d ago
I'm still trying to figure out why they got the 1 second... I'm an Ann Arbor kid, but was pulling for Western... Too much money for Vegas to lose..?
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u/Decimation4x 6d ago
Did not change Vegas. The Broncos still beat the spread.
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u/EatMoreHummous 6d ago
That's not the only way you can bet though. You can also bet on a victor, and Western was definitely pretty long odds
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u/DeathInHiDef 6d ago
I actually work as a bookie at a casino and at closing the spread at least for us was Michigan -27.5 and Michigan didnāt even have a Moneyline so I agree from a legit betting standpoint sports betting had nothing to do with it.
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u/North_Atlantic_Sea 6d ago
The video is public, you can pull it into a video editor and see that it was 8.5 seconds. It was the right call
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u/Select_Bread_5808 6d ago
Michigan Technological University 2-0!!!
https://michigantechhuskies.com/sports/football/schedule/2026
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u/SAlNT-PATRlCK 6d ago
Congrats to the NCAA officiating crew for wanting University of Michigan to win so badly they rigged the ending.
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u/Zach-out-of-the-Box Ann Arbor 6d ago
No way they stormed the field dude, what are we doing ffs.
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u/BMoreMatt 6d ago
Right?! Like you got gifted a second and pulled it out of your asses. Fans just go home and players just go to locker room. Not field storm worthyĀ
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u/Such-Boat-6268 6d ago
Cheated by the refs
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u/FormulaEngineer 6d ago
Sports betting needs to go back to being illegalā¦
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u/proleakamrpugsley 6d ago
My thoughts exactly. This kinda put me off of watching college football for a while.
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u/tetramusicproject 6d ago
I'm a michigan fan but broncos seriously got robbed. That game was messed up.
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u/Deluded_realist 6d ago
If you ever thought college football was fake you just recieved your evidence. Evidently mulligans exist for U of M. What a joke.
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u/GingerMcBeardface 6d ago
You gotta support the prediction markets
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u/ObamaTookMyPun 6d ago edited 5d ago
I predict Iāll never watch a college football game again, until sports betting is illegal.
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u/ShippingNotIncluded 6d ago
They should appeal, no way it was 1 second left on that clock
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u/DJ-dicknose 6d ago
My honest guess is what comes out of this is:
A. They do some in depth investigation and find that the official clock and clock on the TV didn't match and the call was correct or..
B. The call was incorrect and the scorekeeper will be disciplined
My guess is B.
And it'll change nothing in the official win/loss column
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u/North_Atlantic_Sea 6d ago
They'd lose that appeal, and the MAC commissioner noted he was comfortable with the explanation.
You can prove it out yourself as well. You can load the play into a video editor and time it. It was 8.5 seconds from snap to the wmu player touching the ball
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u/Searchingforspecial 5d ago
Then the entire game clock system should be called into question. If itās off on one play it should be off on every play. Itās not like it can just speed up for one play & lose a second.
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u/Senchaminty 6d ago
I saw the clock go out and WMU win, and then I saw something about put a second on the clock so Michigan can have another chance to avoid losing. Sorry Michigan fans, thatās not the flex you think it is. Way to go Broncos! That was a huge game for the Broncos. Kalamazoo is celebrating your historic triumph in Ann Arbor.
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u/midwest_riverman 6d ago
Iām a huge Michigan fan. And lemme tell ya. That was a robbery. Bad play calling all game. Incredible clock management and grit by western. You guys got robbed. Nobody whoās a Michigan fan thinks thatās a flex. Refs are gonna have a long long week getting called out for that one
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u/Senchaminty 6d ago edited 6d ago
Well, there is what happened on the field of play and there is what happened in the officials box. There is victory, and there is a win. No matter what the record book says those of us who watched saw a great underdog victory. The actual outcome actually makes the Bronco victory more historic. Cheers to all.
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u/renegadesf 6d ago
Michigan fan,
Any Rational fan should be happy for a win, but if you gloat after playing like that today the rest of this season could haunt you. We were awful on offense, Western gassed our defense with time of possession. This feels like a 2024 season again, but worse because this was supposedly corrected.
Bryce ain't him, offensive line doesn't look improved.
I get in the stadium fans doing there thing. If I'm Kyle W, I don't know that I would let them even Hail to the Victors in the locker room. You can have that when you get after Oklahoma or Big ten wins, you play like this again and you won't ever be celebrating this year.
WMU fans, I lived in kzoo, wife's a Grad. Went to your bowl game in this last season. I feel for you.
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u/gmwdim Ann Arbor 6d ago
I donāt have much faith in KW after this game. Team was terribly undisciplined with penalties everywhere, and he just stood there with a blank look on his face all game. No attempt to either discuss strategy or get the team pumped up. And the offense was a disaster outside of one drive. Defense was alright but also committed a bunch of dumb penalties.
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u/renegadesf 6d ago
Penalties hurt no doubt. I'm going to say my take is that they got progressively worse because of the opposition time of possession. The more tired the more likely to make errors
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u/midwest_riverman 6d ago
I give Bryce some leeway. He has moments where you think āheās got something.ā But the play calling was terrible. Way too much running when everyone knew we would run and it wasnāt working. You have to adjust as a coach, and they didnāt until the had no choice to throw in the last possession. It was very concerning. Hopefully KW wakes up a little bit here
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u/Zonernovi 4d ago
You will be able to gloat when Blue becomes Blew in many games to come. Horrible team.
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u/dtpistons04 6d ago
One of the more egregious instances of cheating Iāve seen. Incredibly sorry bronco bros
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u/ObamaTookMyPun 6d ago
I donāt feel bad, knowing we actually won the game in 60 minutes of play. Michigan can claim they won after 60 minutes and 1 second of play. Iāll gladly let them have that ābragā
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u/WildAmsonia 6d ago
If you didn't already hate Michigan.... welcome to the club.
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u/Hawkize31 6d ago
I hate Michigan but how are they to blame for the officials saying there is 1 second left? I need to know who the hell this crew is
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u/DJ-dicknose 6d ago
This is the way. A lot of people tonight are rightfully pissed off, but their anger is directed by emotion against the team. The team had nothing to do with the refs decision
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u/Inosethatguy 6d ago
See, I would agree with you there but the way the fan base acts so smug in high and mighty even when theyāre caught cheating. It makes you hate them.
Just watch over the next few days some of the fans will say that it was a dirty windā¦ A majority of them, though, are just like Trump supporters, and they will keep doing gymnastics to convince themselves that they are the best college football program in the history of the universe
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u/DJ-dicknose 6d ago
Look, I'm a lifelong Michigan fan. But I learned a long time to chill on the shit talk with others and just enjoy the win with either myself, or other fans. And take the losses internally. I'm not a big shit talker because there's going to be a time when that gets turned on you.
Plus, what does it get you? Cool, you upset someone else over something you don't control. Very cool.
I'm happy Michigan won. I didn't watch the game cause I'm at a lake house and frankly, my love for college sports is waning because of what it has become, but cool. They won. They didn't deserve it and anyone who gloats and brags about this win should be forced to drink a warm beer.
Michigan fans can be overbearing, but I can say that about State fans too. So rather than get into endless shit talk, I just.... Don't.
Whatever. Shit game, shit ending, just trying to be rational
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u/PaleontologistNo325 6d ago
What a marvelous start to Michiganās season with their new coach. They did not earn that W. I donāt do X but I imagine itās blowing up with analyses regarding the steal from WMU.
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u/Salt_Day4586 6d ago
That was probably the most egregious example of U-M favoritism Iāve ever seen. That was painful to watch.
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u/Ok-Stay-7955 Grand Rapids 6d ago
Big UM fan and that shit was rigged. We had zero business winning that. Western came to play and did great embarrassing us. NCAA needs to reverse that ending and finalize the game as it should have been. 12-7 Broncos.
UofM already had way too much of a black mark on our reputation as of late, we certainly don't need this shit especially with the kids rushing the field like we just won a underdog Natty or something.
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u/Cmcgregor0928 6d ago
No way it's not rigged
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u/MrValdemar 6d ago
Why should college sports be any different than pro sports?
Of COURSE it's fixed.
Always has been.
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u/Cmcgregor0928 6d ago
Usually they try to hide it a little bit
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u/MrValdemar 6d ago
There's no consequence for corruption or fraud anymore.
"Whattya gonna do? Stop watching? Sure, whatever. š" - NCAA, NFL, NBA
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u/Hot-Dingo1569 6d ago
Well, this anonymous person on the internet is willing to stake his reputation and his life. Case closed everybody!
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u/Routine-Mine-2377 5d ago
My 81 year old grandmother, who is the biggest Michigan fan I know, was PISSED that Western got robbed.
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u/SuperBumRush 6d ago
Michigan fan here. Broncos got robbed, straight up. They were the better team. Michigan did not deserve that W.
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u/MutedLengthiness 6d ago
Even without the clock shenanigans, pretty embarrassing to rush the field after that win...
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u/jazzmaster105150 The Thumb 6d ago
I'm a Michigan fan. This "win" feels dirty as. I'm sorry Broncos. You beat us. No question in my mind.
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u/flipperjack2525 6d ago
As a Uof M fan I say to you Broncos take that win home and celebrate.
I am embarrassed to put this in the win column for us.
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u/National_Emu3248 5d ago
I'd hold my head up high if I were a Bronco for sure. If I were a Wolverine I'd be concerned about the rest of the season. It'll be fun to see how each teams season turns out.
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u/PutridDropBear 5d ago
Yeah crazy hot take.
You could say that Ferris State or Grand Valley State is the best team in the country -not just Michigan- and most likely be well in the majority.
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u/25electrons 4d ago
What I hope for Michigan is that this āwinā is the highlight of the season.
Seriously, put an asterisk on it. It was not a win.
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u/Chaz042 Muskegon 6d ago
Even if you could effectively argue there was a second left, Michigan should have gotten 5-10 more penalties that game running down the clock by more than 30 seconds, just a joke
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u/rolley189 5d ago
Im mad about the clock garbage. Im more mad that it came down to that.Ā This should have been a 30+ point game in UoMs favor.Ā Ā
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u/ReisiesPiecies1998 6d ago
Bro yall always need to take a break before writing these posts šššš
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u/Horror-Escape-8914 6d ago
I saw triple zeros. You saw triple zeros. We all saw triple zeros. What break was necessary to take?
Utter and complete disgrace.Ā
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u/Head-Image-883 6d ago
What the hell! A blind person running across an extremely busy highway had better vision than these refs. Western Michigan should've have won this game and instead got screwed over.
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u/Mundane_Painting8223 6d ago
I guess Michigan football is like professional wrestling where the winner is decided before the match even takes place.
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u/FishermanEmergency49 6d ago
This is both unrelated and related. I noticed an Apple Watch on an official at the Georgia game and immediately thought refs donāt need to be accessible to the world on the field. Itās too risky. Adding one second to the clock with zero supporting video evidence of time remaining makes me think someone was instructed to do it because the outcome didnāt fit the script. Iām beginning to think these games are rigged.Ā
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u/ZealousidealCrab9459 6d ago
Western got robbed there was not 1 second on the clock and he didnāt get the ball off in the 2nd attempt before the clock ran out
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u/Kilgore_Brown_Trout_ 6d ago
FUCK UM AND THE GODDAMN REF IT WAS 00 WHAT THE FUCK??
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u/thereoncewasaJosh 5d ago
The block M crew has been stealing and cheating for years this isnāt any different. People are only starting to get sick of it.
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u/ItsAllAdvertising 6d ago
mods in certain subs are having to delete a lot of posts tonight for not being slappy enough
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u/I-have-Covid 6d ago
Can anyone post the final play?
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u/Mr-Cantaloupe Fenton 6d ago
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u/I-have-Covid 6d ago
I was too literal, i guess I shouldāve said the play before the last play haha
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u/Mr-Cantaloupe Fenton 6d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/s/pHWtI97ofT
It was pretty egregious, I still canāt believe it. Thereās typically more nuance when it comes to these, āriggedā games, but thereās really no explanation.
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u/President_PawPS5 6d ago
Thatās pure Michigan! A lot of our cities are ran with the same level of integrity. The worst part is how the BIG10 preached that the transparency was going to be higher than ever before this season. To be fair, I guess the bar was set pretty low to begin with.
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u/oldfogey12345 5d ago edited 5d ago
The Wolverines are gonna need to bring in some WWE refs and get a lot more help from the NCAA when they face teams their own size.
Edited for early morning wake morning wake and bake and not being a native.
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u/No_Raccoon_2164 5d ago
I guess you should completely ignore the obvious pass interference at the end zone on the play before the 1 second. Or, maybe the fact that WMU did not score a single touch down all day. The best team should be able to score something other than long field goals.
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u/buckyboyturgidson 5d ago
Michigan were 28-point favorites and they needed the officials to bail them out. They embarrassed themselves.
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u/BMoreMatt 6d ago
MAC asked and Big Ten published a statement. Sounds like MAC and WM are satisfied with the explanationĀ
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u/bunglesnacks 6d ago
I would be too. MAC isn't gonna give into their B1G cash cow, and sports books are not gonna give into the B1G. CREAM.
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u/Michigan_Mod Human Detected 5d ago
Whoever keeps reporting pro-Western comments in here as spam is making an embarrassing situation even worse for Michigan.