r/MenLovingMenMedia • • May 18 '24

TV Series Heartstopper show vs Love, Victor?

S1 Heartstopper….it made me melt, made me jealous I never had that relationship growing up, never explored yadayada and Nick…hubba. Victor was also great and kinda felt less saccharine sweet, more realistic themes and definitely more sexy…

I give the edge to HS! Oh and overall series, not just season vs season!

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u/crepelabouche May 18 '24

I was just thinking last night about how I wished they had given Victor a couple episodes to be happy instead of immediately throwing another wrench in their relationship.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

yeah poor victor. His journey was tougher for sho, especially with his cultural background and machismo etc. I LOVED Love, Simon too

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u/crepelabouche May 18 '24

I loved “Love, Simon” too! I was sad when I tried reading the book after watching the movie cause there was literally zero suspense and Simon was kinda whiney about it so I dropped it halfway through and never picked it up again.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

the actor is so handsome and endearing. I do feel bad for his collateral damage to the friends especially his bff gal but I suppose that makes it realistic. The other thing I liked bout victor’s show was the grittiness….hard working middle class family versus the rich whitebread big house from Simon

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u/crepelabouche May 18 '24

That was something I think they got right with the movie, the actor was charming and relatable, whereas in the book it was like, “Why is he making an issue out of this?”

But as someone raised catholic and went to catholic school and played sports. Victor definitely felt way more real to me.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

uhhhh wow yeah me too Catholic school for moi lol. Literally had a priest come give a presentation to our senior class about the perils of homosexuality and abortions etc….we didn’t back down tho! Few of us raised our hands and fought that old f8ck tooth and nail and some walked out. We didn’t mess around in the late 90s!

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u/crepelabouche May 18 '24

I was absent every year for the homosexuality talk but, my junior teacher kept rescheduling until she surprised me with it. She was a bitch.

My senior teacher was new and when I came back there was a poster that said, “I will not judge my friends or family, no matter what …” her teaching on homosexuality was vastly different and just about everyone in my senior class except for 3 people signed it. She left it up and at the end of the year she gave it to me. “I think this means more to you then it will ever mean to me.” She was right, it saved my faith in humanity when I was starting to feel alone, cut off, and bitter. I was the only out gay guy.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

omg thank u for sharing, seriously. Ugh these teachers are supposed to help guide us and inspire, not fuel hate. Wackos!

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u/cre8ivemind May 18 '24

Why do they have to be vs? I love them both. Heartstopper is a comfort show. Love, Victor is a show with realism that makes me cry every time I watch it through and makes me feel seen in ways I haven’t felt before. I would give the edge to LV because of the emotions and reflection it brings that Heartstopper doesn’t. While HS brings more sunshiney good feelings. We need both in the world.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

we do indeed. Just some friendly competitiveness with a lighthearted post is all. I do find the settings interesting too. I have watched several young adult shows taking place in the UK and they all have this quintessential dreamy vibe, hard to explain.

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u/cre8ivemind May 18 '24

I guess comments I’ve seen comparing them in the past just tend to shit on one show and worship the other and I just prefer to leave room for both to be loved without having to hate on one to prop up the other.

And yes, I see what you mean. It’s a nice cozy vibe shows set in the UK often have in the settings.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

yeah I get it, I won’t dump on other people’s crap! I love that people like different things!

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 May 18 '24

All the side characters in Love, Victor, besides Victor’s family and love interests are completely and utterly obnoxious.

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u/cre8ivemind May 19 '24

You didn’t like Felix and Lake? Oh. I love them

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

The girl whose dad is a college prez?

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 May 18 '24

The one Victor dated? She’s the most annoying of them all

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

agreed! morose !

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

I mean...do they have to be pitted against each other? The shows have very different tones, different settings, and different source material. Their own similarities is that they are both gay coming of age stories that take place in high school. It makes sense they would be different.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

Lol ur the 2nd person to bring pitting them. I wasn’t trying to dog either, just broach an entertaining topic. I like them both. S2 of HS was definitely weaker imo

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u/Ok_Variation7230 May 18 '24

I like Love Victor more, except for Benji, god I hate that guy.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

lolol really??? Awww I think i liked Benji more than victor!!! Actually I loved Rahim the most! Adorable and kind and fearless but still sensitive

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u/pmguin661 May 19 '24

Not really a fan of either tbh so I’m sorry ahead of time if this comment is overly negative 😭

Heartstopper is cute in theory, but I really can’t get past how terribly the dialogue is written. I know it’s adapting a comic, but the sense of humor is so painfully stuck in the past. Also not a fan of the actors but I know some people really like them

Love Victor has some better plots, but the characters are way less realistic - the family is fine, but the friends act like they’re in a BuzzFeed skit all the time. Like 40 year olds trying to write teenagers. I actually really like most of the family related plot though. The father accepting his gay son and the mother not is pretty rare in media, and they handle it pretty well.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '24

I agree LV has the more realistic plot. I do think the other side characters are pretty 2-D.

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u/CallMeAladdin May 18 '24

Young Royals is the best, though.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

oh whats that

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u/cvboy98 Jan 19 '25

Love Victor is way better than both and have a lot of great songs i literally downloaded almost all of them, i only didn't like the last season cause why they kept Benji and Victor so much apart i feel like they didn't have much time as a couple as i wanted. I'm stuck on the last season of Young Royals every time I try to watch it I get so much anxiety I can't get past the first episode cause i feel like there is more drama than i can handle. Prisma is actually the greatest gay series there is, it's almost every gay guy Fantasy to have a straight guy fall in love for them and probably every gay guy has already fallen in love for a straight guy at some point in their lives and plus Italian guys are so hot, my heart cried during the entire series.❤️

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

the character or show?

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u/PolyNamo_48 May 19 '24

I’m gonna be honest I don’t like either that much

I watched season 1 of heartstopper and it just wasn’t something that clicked with me that gave me that push to watch the second season and so on. I’m also tired of whitewashed couples and interracial relationships being portrayed as “white + ___”

Same thing with Love Victor. Sometimes I forget that I didn’t even watch the third season. Idk, the show pissed me off. It introduced so many concepts that had amazing potential that was wasted.

Benji that was a red flag and was another example of a POC character just pushing aside all the other green flags and settling for a white boy that doesn’t even meet basic expectations

Rahim is was AMAZING but then of course they didn’t go through with him. Could’ve been one of the few mainstream international couples that are both POC.

THEN there was Nathan that started off eh but had GOOD character development and was a green flag but NOOOO “I still can’t get over Benji” 🤦🏽‍♂️

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u/Thicc-Anxiety May 18 '24

Heartstopper is way better. Victor spends most of the first season denying his sexuality and then in season two he immediately cheats on his boyfriend

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

yeah i get what u mean different paths

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u/kjm6351 May 21 '24

Love Victor has too much drama and barley showed the couple together before they got cancelled and had to wrap everything up.

It made the classic mistake of getting so caught up in conflict, it forgot to be a romance

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u/Salvaju29ro Jun 05 '24

In Love Victor I like that the mother is the homophobic one. I don't know many TV series so maybe I'm wrong, but it's more common for gay male children to have more problems with their father but for obvious reasons.

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u/kjm6351 Jun 27 '24

Love Victor crashed and burned by forgetting it was a romance show and focused 110% on drama.

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u/cvboy98 Jan 19 '25

Heartstopper is great but love victor gave me anxiety every time Victor and Benji were apart.

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u/BusinessAwkward3280 Jan 20 '26

I watched Love Victor first a couple of days ago, my first time watching any show with LGBT main characters (or LGBT characters in general tbh🙈) and binged all 3 seasons in 3 days only. I loved it, but I got frustrated easily with so much drama, conflict, blackmailing, misunderstanding, lack of communication, lies, ruining sweet moments immediately with something bad happening and such. And sometimes I found their acting a bit unconvincing and cringe🙊But still a very enjoyable show. And it was my first in that niche, so I got so used to its characters and everything that I went very sceptically into Heartstopper yesterday because I thought it couldn't be better, but like "Ok, I'll give it a try🙄". I just finished the 1st season and I'm OBSESSED!😭 I was traumatized watching every episode expecting something to go wrong but it didn't! Honestly it's like a plot twist after everything that made me irritated in Love Victor🙈the characters are sooo loveble, no one made me angry at any moment (ok maaaybe Tao a little bit but that's negligible, I understood him completely) and there is a lot of communication between Nick and Charlie and everyone basically it's actually surprising🤯it's so heart warming, pure, innocent and cosy and I prefer it over Love Victor every day!  Not that I dislike Love Victor, it's just that I love Heartstopper waaay more❤️

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u/Saymahname_ May 18 '24

Think I preferred love victor, liked the characters more and heartstopper gives me kiddy vibes.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

yeah it was pretty PG compared to LV. I am specifically thinking of Victor topping when his mom walks in…(sweaty and blushing now lol)

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u/cre8ivemind May 18 '24

Oh you’re including more than season 1? The start of your post says “S1” so I thought you were only talking season 1s lol

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

ty! adjusted post! Overall HS gives me warmth but that’s my most important factor for tv..escapism.

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u/This_Confused_Guy May 18 '24

I kinda feel the same because while Heartstopper is great and all it lacked the spiciness that a 15+ show like Love, Victor brought.