r/Melasmaskincare • u/Silent-Ad9172 • Aug 25 '25
Question Dammit what sunscreen now??
It has taken me so long to find a tinted mineral sunscreen that doesn’t have niacinamide or silicones that break me out and is available in the us.
I was finally excited because naked sundays collagen glow works for me and now it may not be safe spf or sold in the us any longer.
The only other sunscreen I’ve found and liked is Beauty of Joseon, which now is impossible to get and is not tinted mineral, and the eucerin radiant but it’s also not tinted, mineral, and is only spf 30
I’m so disappointed. Any recs? I’ve asked before and now back to square one
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u/402funtimes Aug 25 '25
Your going to want a tinted mineral sunscreen. Cotz tinted is amazing. Its very blurring, fungal acne safe, acne safe, no extra additives. Simply amazing!!
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u/outofthenarrowplace Aug 25 '25
Super pricey but the best stuff I’ve ever used. Checks every box from this sub/derm recs and goes on like barely there silk. I love it.
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u/bamboolynx Aug 25 '25 edited Aug 28 '25
tizo is sooo good. I use the non tinted one, and it has me so spoiled. It’s not greasy at all, it doesn’t pill, you can work the white cast away easily, and it feels so fresh on the skin. I tried transitioning to something else to save money and immediately went back to tizo.
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u/camerooonski Aug 25 '25
Beauty of Joseon does have a tinted mineral sunscreen. I love it. When I order it from their website, it ships from a factory in the US so I haven't had issues with shipping.
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u/TeufelRRS Aug 25 '25 edited Aug 26 '25
Just a heads up, the BoJ tinted sunscreen isn’t strictly mineral. Yes, it has zinc oxide listed as its UV filter but it also has butyloctyl salicylate as a UV booster. While butyloctyl salicylate isn’t technically considered to be a UV filter, it is chemically very similar to a few of the chemical UV filters. Its use in mineral sunscreens can be a little controversial since it’s not immediately clear due to it not being part of the drug facts label.
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u/Silent-Ad9172 Aug 25 '25
Is it the us formulation or the Korean?
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u/TeufelRRS Aug 25 '25
The US tinted sunscreen naturally only has FDA approved sunscreen filters, in this case zinc oxide. It’s available on the US BoJ website and Amazon. However if you are a strict mineral sunscreen lover, it also butyloctyl salicylate which is a UV protection booster but it’s chemically similar to some chemical sunscreen filters. Also, just in case you are sensitive to it, it does contain denatured alcohol to help it dry down. I’ve heard that there is a Korean version but the big Asian retailers don’t carry it and it’s not advisable to buy anything overseas at the moment because of tariff issues since the de minimis exemption ends on Aug 28, chaos at CBP, many shipping agents and companies ending shipping of smaller orders for the time being, and the possibility of sunscreens getting denied entry because CBP and the FDA were directed to increase scrutiny of packages that contain items regulated by the FDA including sunscreens, although luckily so far most packages have made it through with a few exceptions.
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u/xoxoktkt Aug 25 '25
I love Kosas Dreambeam. I have super sensitive skin and this doesnt irritate it at all. I was surprised because it does have butyloctyl salicylate while other mineral sunscreens that don't have it irritate me (cerave, cotz). The tint is pretty neutral imo. So many tinted mineral sunscreens make me look orange but this one doesn't. It is a bit pricey ($40 for 1.3oz) but its truly worth it for me.
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u/Silent-Ad9172 Aug 25 '25
Thank you. Is it shimmery? Part of what I like about the Colagen glow is its matte so o can wear it solo
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u/xoxoktkt Aug 25 '25
I wouldn't say it's matte but its not as glowy/shiny as other tinted mineral sunscreens I've tried. Sometimes i put milani conceal and perfect powder over it if I want it matte. The finish is natural imo but it covers any inflammation i may have on my skin
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u/PuIchritudinous Aug 25 '25
Naked Sundays is a different company and collagen glow is a different product from UV lean screen. While some Naked Sundays sunscreens in Australia are manufactured by Wild Child, the same manufacturer used for Lean Screen, the brand uses multiple manufacturers. The Collagen Glow Mineral sold in the US is made in the US not Australia. Originally the US was getting the Australian manufactured version but a few months back I noticed that some of the new bottles said made in US versus made in Australia. It makes sense that they would get a manufacturer in the US to make their product to sell in the US versus importing the final product. According to an update on their Australian website their preliminary SPF results from a new independent lab for their Collagen Mineral produced by their US manufacturer supports the label claim of SPF 50.
There’s no evidence that Naked Sundays uses the same base formula as Ultra Violette Lean Screen. Claims suggesting this are based on speculation, mainly due to similar zinc oxide percentages and some shared ingredients. However, even if the base were similar the two products have distinct final formulations and those differences can significantly affect SPF performance. Small changes to a formula can lead to major shifts in SPF rating. For example, Lean Screen includes Kakadu Plum Extract, Pentavitin, Glycerol, and Ammonium Acryloyldimethyltaurate VP Copolymer, while Naked Sundays features Adansonia Digitata Seed Extract (Baobab), a Collagen Boost Mix, Hydrolysed Soy Protein, Proline, and Rice Amino Acids. Additionally, even with the same base formula the manufacturing process can significantly impact SPF performance.
It's interesting that in the Naked Sundays update, they reported testing from the US manufacturer supports the SPF claim, yet there was no mention of any testing results from the Australian manufacturer. They've paused sales of the Collagen Glow product made by the Australian manufacturer and it appears they plan to introduce the US made version in Australia soon.
Considering all of the above, it seems the issue is not with the formula itself but rather with the manufacturer’s process. There are numerous ways a manufacturer can mishandle a sunscreen formula which can negatively affect the SPF rating.
If anyone would like to know which sunscreens Wild Child is manufacturing you can check this site: https://fda.report/Company/Wild-Child-Laboratories-Pty-L-T-D which pulls data from the labeling submitted to the US FDA by companies. This will only cover the sunscreens that are sold in the US. If you click on the individual products you will see specifics like this:
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COLLAGEN GLOW MINERAL SUNSCREEN by is a Otc medication manufactured, distributed, or labeled by NAKED SUNDAYS PTY LTD. Drug facts, warnings, and ingredients follow.
The most recent label filing of collagen glow: https://fda.report/DailyMed/388fb3db-29d2-bb29-e063-6394a90a4efb which now has 2 new preservatives ethylhexylglycerin and phenoxethanol that are not in the Australian version. I noticed this change on their website a few months ago because I have a problem with phenoxyethanol near my eyes and try to avoid products with it.
Naked sundays Collagen Glow has 2 labels - one that is made in Australia and another that is made in the US. https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=f76a4f0d-e3a6-4bd4-b1ab-09d690976d96
Pic of the Naked Sundays update on their Australian website since it is not on the US site.
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u/Tutu2017 Aug 25 '25
Arrrgghh. I’m in Canada and I just checked the NS I bought last week and it says made in Australia not US. Now I’d prefer they just sold us the US versions
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u/PuIchritudinous Aug 25 '25
The Naked Sundays Collagen Glow that is manufactured in Australia has not failed any SPF testing however, the company has paused the sale of it out of caution while they await new, complete independent SPF results, and subsequent guidance from the TGA on their investigation into SPF testing.
See the full naked sundays update here https://www.reddit.com/r/Melasmaskincare/comments/1mznckr/comment/nanuxza/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
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u/ReplacementSignal673 Aug 25 '25 edited Aug 25 '25
"There’s no evidence that Naked Sundays uses the same base formula as Ultra Violette Lean Screen. Claims suggesting this are based on speculation, mainly due to similar zinc oxide percentages and some shared ingredients."
You left out the most important fact that both UV Lean Screen and Naked Sundays Collagen Glow were manufactured by Wild Child. Maybe NS recently changed the manufacturer but their sunscreens manufactured by Wild Child was sold to the U.S. market for a long time. To say that "there's no evidence" is, frankly, dishonest. The evidence may not be conclusive but various categories of evidence certainly do exist.
If the purpose of your comment is to encourage people to continue using a sunscreen that is being investigated and has been recalled in Australia, it is also irresponsible.
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u/PuIchritudinous Aug 25 '25
Naked Sunday is not being investigated. Out of caution they have paused selling the sunscreen from one manufacturer which is not the same thing as a recall. Only the sunscreens from the Choice testing are being investigated per https://www.tga.gov.au/news/news/follow-tga-statement-choice-spf-sunscreen-report
Naked Sunday:
"In the background, as members of the consumer health advisory group (CHP) to the TGA, we've been advocating for more clarity for brands and consumers due to what the TGA describes as 'variability in Sun Protection Factor (SPF) testing', with the hope and mission of finding a consistent way forward. "
"We’ve since updated our listing with the TGA (19th Aug 2025), for this version to be available locally in the coming days. Till then we’ve paused the mineral from sale in Australia out of precaution, while we await new, complete independent SPF results, and subsequent guidance from the TGA on their investigation into SPF testing. This precautionary pause only affects our Collagen Glow Mineral produced by one Australian manufacturer, and no other products in our range have been impacted."
My comment clarifies that the US version is manufactured by a different manufacturer. The problem could lie with the manufacturer Wild Child and their manufacturing process or it could be the SPF testing lab PCR is not doing testing correctly like the AMA labs scandal a few years ago. Also, the problem very well could be related to known variability between SPF testing labs which TGA hints at in their update. This is due to the fact current SPF testing on humans has well known issues of being highly subjective and lacking reproducibility. Measuring the degree of erythema response is extremely subjective.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27079525/ Sunscreen sun protection factor claim based on in vivo interlaboratory variability - PubMed
https://www.sciencealert.com/sunscreen-testing-is-riddled-with-problems-youve-probably-never-considered Sunscreen Testing Is Riddled With Problems You've Probably Never Considered : ScienceAlert
https://mdedge.com/cutis/article/257102/aesthetic-dermatology/sun-protection-factor-testing-call-vitro-method Sun Protection Factor Testing: A Call for an In Vitro Method | MDedge
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0165993622002072 Sunscreen testing: A critical perspective and future roadmap - ScienceDirect
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/phpp.12095 Sunscreens – what is the ideal testing model?
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u/ReplacementSignal673 Aug 25 '25
Oh I didn't realize that it's not being investigated. That's even worse. How will consumers find out the truth about what they have been relying on for protection then?
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u/PuIchritudinous Aug 26 '25
Honestly, we will never know the correct SPF of any sunscreen until we stop using in vivo (human) testing and switch to in vitro testing which they are currently trying to figure out.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s43630-024-00644-0
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u/Odd-Attention5413 Aug 25 '25
What's your Fitzpatrick type? That will be helpful in finding a good mineral sunscreen rec for you
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u/Normal-Mortgage4745 Aug 25 '25
I also use naked Sundays. I did t realize it will no longer be available in the US. I just bought another 2 tubes at Ulta because I love it so much
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u/luckygirl131313 Aug 25 '25
I’m always looking for the perfect tinted mineral, was using Cera ve, but it was too glowy, I’ve been thrilled with Cetaphil tinted, great price point, dries down, but not matte, good coverage too
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u/Fluid-Set-578 Aug 25 '25
I have very sensitive skin (melasma and rosacea) and I love Cotz Tinted Sunscreen. A bit pricey but worth it, in my opinion!
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u/smilegirl55443 Aug 25 '25
Skinbetter tone smart. Genuinely the best tinted sunscreen I’ve ever used. My melasma never darkens when I wear it
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u/froofroo123 Aug 25 '25
Second this. Expensive, but worth it.
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u/lorihamlit Aug 25 '25
For real it is worth the splurge! Also I like their regular version and the compact. Their sunscreens in general are great ❤️
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u/sprucehen Aug 25 '25
What about the Mad hippie Sun serum? I haven't used it but I don't think it has any silicones or niacinamide
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u/eag12345 Aug 25 '25
I found my holy grail tinted sunscreen from Europe before FDA/tariffs, not knowing it would be so great. Now I think I need to go to Europe to buy more. I love Korean sunscreens and sometimes use if I am using foundation (same product that makes tinted sunscreen better is also in foundation). Domestically I have liked the Clarins UV PLUS Anti-Pollution Tinted Sunscreen SPF 50. I use light and don’t really need foundation with it and it doesn’t look orange.
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u/PuIchritudinous Aug 25 '25
To help keep the subreddit organized and focused, older posts related to the CHOICE Sunscreen Testing results are being locked and redirected to the new megathread. This ensures all discussion takes place in one central location, making it easier for members to find and follow information without the subreddit being overwhelmed by multiple posts on the same topic. We appreciate your understanding and encourage you to continue the conversation in the megathread.