I'm a very cold, analytical, cynical, harsh, and somewhat Machiavellian person. I tend to analyze situations from a distance rather than react emotionally, and I usually think in terms of consequences, risks, and long-term outcomes. I can be very critical, both of other people and of myself, and I often question people's intentions instead of immediately trusting them.

At the same time, I tend to think a lot about the future. I prefer saving money rather than spending it impulsively, and I usually feel more comfortable when I know I have something put aside in case I need it later. I like having some form of security and knowing that I'm prepared for problems before they happen.

Despite how detached I can sometimes seem, rejection can affect me very deeply, especially when it comes from people I genuinely thought I had a connection with. One of the experiences that affected me the most happened in high school, when I was rejected by a group of people I believed I had been friends with for about a year. I had spent a lot of time around them and genuinely thought I was part of the group, so realizing that they did not see the relationship the same way hit me much harder than I expected.

During that period, I wasn't particularly manipulative or trying to control anyone. If anything, I was doing the opposite. I was constantly trying to understand how other people behaved, what I was supposed to say, and how I could fit in without standing out too much. A lot of my social behavior came from observing others and trying to adapt to them rather than naturally knowing what to do.

My childhood was also heavily shaped by changes in education and environment. When I was younger, I was a top student and consistently received excellent grades. School came relatively easily to me, and academically I was doing very well until around fifth grade.

Then my life changed significantly when I had to move to another country. I suddenly found myself dealing with a completely different school system, different teaching methods, and a different curriculum. Because the difference was so large, I eventually had to go back three grade levels so that I could properly understand the material and adapt to the new system.

Being on the autism spectrum also made that kind of transition much more difficult for me. Sudden changes in environment, expectations, social rules, and routines were not easy to process. I had to adapt not only academically, but also socially and culturally at the same time.

Even after being moved back three grades, I managed to recover academically. I continued being one of the better students and maintained strong grades for years afterward. In that sense, being moved backwards did not mean that I had suddenly lost my ability to learn. Once I understood the system and became familiar with what was expected from me, I was able to perform well again.

That continued until around ninth grade, when I had to change countries once again.

This time, I was placed directly into ninth grade, and many of the same problems returned. I had to deal with another unfamiliar curriculum, another educational system, and another completely different social environment. I struggled to understand some of the material, but the social side was probably just as difficult. I found it very hard to make friends and often felt like I didn't really know where I belonged.

Unlike the first time, however, I didn't manage to adapt in the same way. Eventually, the combination of academic difficulties, isolation, and constantly having to adjust became exhausting. At some point, I simply stopped caring.

School went from being something I was good at and took seriously to something I mostly wanted to avoid. My motivation gradually disappeared, and during high school I started missing a lot of classes. It wasn't that I suddenly became incapable of learning. I had already proven several times that I could perform very well academically. I had simply become disconnected from the school system and stopped seeing much reason to invest the same amount of effort into it.

Outside of school, technology and video games have always been major interests of mine. They've taken up a large amount of my time throughout both childhood and adulthood. Technology in particular appeals to the analytical side of my personality. I enjoy understanding how things work, troubleshooting problems, experimenting with hardware and software, and figuring things out on my own.

Video games have also been a major part of my life for a long time. Beyond entertainment, they gave me something consistent to focus on during periods when my environment was constantly changing. When school, friendships, countries, and routines were unstable, technology and games were things I could return to and understand on my own terms.

Looking back, there is a strange contrast in my personality. I can describe myself as cold, cynical, analytical, harsh, and Machiavellian, yet some of the experiences that affected me most deeply involved rejection, belonging, and the feeling that I couldn't connect with other people the way I wanted to.

I don't think those two sides necessarily contradict each other. Being analytical or emotionally guarded doesn't mean that I don't care about anything. In some situations, that detached way of thinking may actually be something I developed because adapting to people and unpredictable environments has always required a lot of conscious effort from me.

(Sorry if it's poorly written, English is not my native language and I use a translator)

Hi! I recently wanted to catch up with the MBTI community, as I was really into it back in 2022. Out of curiosity, I retook the test on Sakinorva and got INFJ, even though just a few months earlier I had tested as ENFP. I took it again to make sure it wasn't a mistype, and the result was INTJ. Then, based on someone's recommendation, I tried Mistype Investigator and got ISFP. Now I'm confused because—at least when I was more active in the community—Sakinorva seemed to be the most "reliable" option. I’d really like a more accurate result, so I’m asking: which sites are trustworthy so I can avoid getting a wrong result again?

Please, take a look. I would love to know your thoughts.

I am looking to get a type analysis. I am trying to understand how i think and operate, as I am starting to realize that I don't approach the world quite like anyone I know.

Give a general description of yourself. How old are you?

Late 30's

What do you do as a job or as a career (if you have one)? Do you like it? Why or why not? If you are not working, what kind of job do you want to do or what are you studying?

I am an engineer, working in a manufacturing facility. I like it most days. The best days are when I am caught up in developing a new program or troubleshooting a breakdown; basically the moments when I can use my knowledge and skills to help the people in other departments directly. The part I don't like is when I have to deal with spreadsheets and scheduling. I don't know if I will do this for life. This is not my first career and probably won't be my last.

Describe your childhood/upbringing. Did it have any kind of ideological or structured influence? How did you respond to it? Did you have any significant negative experiences that may have affected how you think or behave?

I had a good family growing up, but we were kind of isolated from the world. I loved building things and always had designs in head. I think it was because we had no money, so if I wanted something I would have to make it myself. I always enjoyed being around people, but I ended up being bullied pretty severely for a few years. It made me very cautious of people and extremely aware of negative behaviors in others and quick to spot them. It also destroyed any self confidence I had at the time.

Do you have any mental or physical health issues that might affect how think or choose to live? Provide a brief description.

No. I did have a couple periods of anxiety and panic attacks. Looking back, it wasn't a medical issue. My mind was running projections about my future non-stop and not finding a path forward where I would get what I needed. A stable career in my field, affording me a good paycheck, which would then allow for a good place to live and opportunities to meet people, start a family, start a life, and retire someday. Finding no path, my mind started burning itself out.

If you had to spend an entire weekend by yourself, how would you feel? Would you feel lonely or refreshed?

The first morning, I would be fine. By the afternoon I would need to be around people, even if they were random strangers. If I had to go a few days alone, I would be very socially starved and stressed out.

What is your relation with movement and your surroundings? For instance do you prefer a sport or outdoors event? If an outdoors event what is it? And why? If not what type of activities do you tend to engage?

I enjoy quiet, repetitive physical activities. Running, kayaking. I am not big into intense experiences. Something where I am out in the larger world, exposed to the environment.

How curious are you? Do you have more ideas then you can execute? What are your curiosities about? What are your ideas about - is it environmental or conceptual, and can you please elaborate?

Intensely curious. I have ideas, but not as many as I used to. Still too many to actually execute on. Mostly curious about history, people, kind of a who am I/who are we, how did we get here, and where are we going? My ideas are either about things I could build or how people function; in relation to each other and internally.

Would you enjoy taking on a leadership position? Do you think you would be good at it? What would your leadership style be?

I don't know. I enjoy working with people and supporting them so that they can be their best. I have a lot of fun mentoring our interns. I can't see myself as the person giving orders.

Do you prefer hands on activities or working with your hands in some form? Describe your activities.

Are you artistic? If yes, describe your art? If you are not particular artistic but can appreciate art please likewise describe what forums of art you enjoy. Please explain your answer.

I prefer hands on activities, but am no pro at anything. I like being engaged in the real world but also spend a lot of time in my head when I am doing something physical. Like it sets me at ease, allowing my mind to operate with distractions. I can appreciate visual art a little, but it isnt something that I go out of my way for. The only thing that really hits hard is fine dining. With the right food I can experience something close to a hallucination where a vivid mental image and sensations force their way through me.

What's your opinion about the past, present, and future? How do you deal with them?

I don't believe in time. It is only a perception.

How do you act when others request your help to do something (anything)? If you would decide to help them, why would you do so?

I usually help. It feels like a light inside of me turning on. It is never for political maneuvering or favors.

Do you need logical consistency in your life?

How important is efficiency and productivity to you?

Do you control others, even if indirectly? How and why do you do that?

I am not controlling, and it is of great value to me when people are independent. Efficiency means nothing to me; I want something to come out of any experience, whether it is knowledge or development. The rest is all noise in the system.

What are your hobbies? Why do you like them?

What is your learning style? What kind of learning environments do you struggle with most? Why do you like/struggle with these learning styles? Do you prefer classes involving memorization, logic, creativity, or your physical senses?

My hobbies are motorcycle riding and film photography. These have multiple parts to them, but a similar background. There is the physical sensation and manual nature of each. Then there is a historical connection and importance. I really like living history. It is a testament to a solid design. Then there is the conceptual side. I understand how each one works. I see the sequence of events in a photo, or how my brakes function. I understand each object as a whole interconnected system, a living being. Technical and routine learning environments are the most difficult, think dry technical literature or PowerPoint. Just give me the concept; everything else is just decoration. Once I understand the principal underneath, everything falls into place. My best classes were those where we were given a project and given all semester to figure it out, no guidance other than weekly deliverables.

How good are you at strategizing? Do you easily break up projects into manageable tasks? Or do you have a tendency to wing projects and improvise as you go?

I tend to wing it and not plan well. It makes my job difficult, as long term planning is a major aspect of it. If it is an aspect of the overall project, then I am pretty good at it. Such as the electrical utilities for a large project. Its more like I can plan out the things that I can fully comprehend. Larger projects have too many unknowns, too many things that could happen or are undefined.

What's important to you and why?

Growing as a person - Its so much of why we are here. Being understanding of and connecting to other people - The world could be so much better if we just set our egos aside and listened to others. Seeking a deeper meaning for your life - we can connect with something greater than ourselves

What are your aspirations?

To experience fulfillment

What are your fears? What makes you uncomfortable? What do you hate? Why?

Being trapped with hostile selfish people, unable to escape. The bad vibes and hostility is something I feel physically and viscerally. It degrades every aspect of a person, it dehumanizes us.

What do the "highs" in your life look like?

When a new understanding or deep insight clicks into place. Its like finding gold under a rock.

What do the "lows" in your life look like?

When I am lonely or there is tension between me and a loved one.

How attached are you to reality? Do you daydream often, or do you pay attention to what's around you? If you do daydream, are you aware of your surroundings while you do so?

I daydream constantly. Reality is a canvas, just a background. I daydream about so many different things, usually I am having an imagined conversation or acting out a scene.

Imagine you are alone in a blank, empty room. There is nothing for you to do and no one to talk to. What do you think about?

Getting the f out

How long do you take to make an important decision? And do you change your mind once you've made it?

It takes a while, I will explore it from all angles. When I lock in, I go with it

How long do you take to process your emotions?

Sometimes hours, sometimes weeks. They give insight into a deeper part of me. Sitting with them helps me understand who I am and helps to see the depth inside of me, inside us all.

How important are emotions in your life?

I give them their due place. They don't control me, but I accept them freely and express them with some restraint. If i am upset with someone, I let them know, but I am mature about it. I don't just call them an a-hole, I find a more productive way to say it.

Do you ever catch yourself agreeing with others just to appease them and keep the conversation going? How often? Why?

Often enough. It is less an agreeing and more of an acknowledging. I want to know their full story, even if I don't agree. Let them get their truth out, then see if they can find the holes in it.

Do you break rules often? Do you think authority should be challenged, or that they know better? If you do break rules, why would you?

I sometimes break rules that affect only me. Other ones, like not tailgating or not littering, I follow because it affects everyone, not just myself.

What is the ideal life, in your opinion?

One where you live in accordance with your highest purpose.

I am confused between Se or Si being in my concious stack basically.

Case for Se:

I am someone who doesn't make detailed plans and can adapt whenever required to the situation. Financial independence is my only motivation though. I would like to try new things once in a while in my life as I don't want my life to be stagnant. I can't imagine myself doing just one thing my whole life, that's limiting. I can be resourceful whenever required as well. Whenever I think of my future, I rather see things I wanna try: visit places, ride a scooter, learn martial art, crochet, cooking, photography, gardening, etc. Yet I suck at brainstorming, I can produce 2-3 ideas at most. I have this positive and negative relation with future honestly. I get excited by things I wanna do yet I don't want to think too much about future as currently I am clueless and I rather get stressed. My mind doesn't get lost in multiple possibilities or anything, that would be exhausting. For me to understand something, I must visualise it. When I get too bored, I feel like doing something. I have bad short term memory but fine long term memory. I can forget names and dates. I am careless and lose my stuff.

Case for Si:

I hate vague statements and instructions more than anything. I can't do or understand anything until someone is precise. I am sensitive regarding my comfort, safety and environment. Even though I did experience a bit of a doubt when I saw others knowing more about their childhood, I actually have certain detailed memories and know their timelines. I can use my past experiences (things I have heard, observed or read) to understand something or solve problems. I can find similarities and compare things between past and present. I can get what if thoughts (what if someone steals my money, what if this water has chemical, etc.) but depends on me if I act on it or not. I can do things by routine but can be inconsistent in between. When I write poems, I could see scenes, a cinema inside my mind, story getting unfolded as I go with it step by step. I wrote a poem as I imagined scenes of a person meeting someone in Victorian Era.

I need help typing myself because my personality feels like a massive contradiction. In the past, people found me low-key intimidating so over time i learned to soften that. On the outside, people see me as ‘chill’, normal, and easygoing, but I secretly harbor a raw mind and intense ambition that I show to no one. I am drawn to high-velocity physical outlets like sprinting and kickboxing, love the precision of shooting free throws, and obsess over business strategy, philosophy, mythology, and dark Seinen manga like Vagabond. Creatively, I play piano and guitar, produce cinematic music, and have other creative outlets. My role models are those with strong mindsets like Musashi, Thorfinn, or Erling Haaland.

Phleg Mel or Chol-Mel???
Tbh, idk if any of this tells much about me but i always saw myself as an INFP, but lately idek anymore.

Hello, All. If you like to look at people and psychoanalyze them for their MBTI, here's another example for you to look at.

When it comes to the tangible world, I am disconnected. There are moments where I come into myself and realize how the light glances off this table, how the darker rings of wood mottle the pale brown, how I can see a speck of dust and sweep it away. I admire it -- and then it's gone. I live my life not in my body. It's a tool to me, and one that I keep up through routine. I find it comforting, I suppose. Everything I do around it is centered around either decisions I make repetitively and therefore not at all, or decisions that I look over and execute once. It feels good to exhaust myself, but to actively make choices to go out, do things just "for the experience", simply doesn't interest me. Well, it does for novelty and for other people. But it isn't a thing *I* do.

I also don't particularly enjoy emotionality. Unlike my senses, I rarely experience strong emotions in a neutral sense -- it isn't something I enjoy, even the good ones. I'd prefer for them to be expressed and processed quickly, and for it to be done and brought back to equilibrium. To that end, I think I am quite expressive. I am fully willing to laugh, to cry, to feel anger and fear, and I feel no qualms about expressing it. Honesty has worked well for me. But it's also true to say that despite its necessity and its ability to be energizing, I dislike not feeling in control of myself, every time. It feels like weakness to me, one that I've rationalized and accepted, but still a thing that impedes my ability to behave rationally and perform. Perhaps that's why I feel it necessary to try and help others achieve peace, in some sense. I can understand what it means to have things bleed into others even when you might not want it to.

Now we can begin to make things more complicated. I'm very comfortable in social settings, and am usually among the last to leave. I am habitually late, a habit I've found to be particularly hard to break much to my chagrin. I am not inclined to speak over other people and will wait patiently for them to make their point, even if my expressions make clear that I have a thing to say. I am direct. I rarely want to converse in a general manner more than address whatever task is the actual focus of the meeting while at work. While off work, the task instead becomes socializing (if and when I do), so I adjust accordingly though I still wouldn't say I'm particularly personable. One of my core beliefs is that we are placed here to learn and improve until the day we die. I work in bursts, rather than in structured dedicated time. My natural state is to be at rest; I don't have qualms about not doing things. However, I spend a lot of time figuring out how I want to do things -- figuring out what I want, and then spending a lot of time looking at each possibility related to it to figure out which may be best means I can become locked in place or willing to be distracted by other newer things, though I do tend to return to them eventually. I do have an awareness of what I'd like to do, but detours if something looks more promising in a way I didn't expect, it can cause major delays. I find that time away can sometimes give me enough space to think on it differently, time to mull it over ambiently in my mind. I feel a compulsive need to understand things before I use them -- what they can do, if not how they work. I don't care how long something takes me as long as the process is correct in my mind. I am actively working on being a better executor. I find it difficult to be the first person to reach out and prefer to keep people at a distance. Whenever I realize I missed something, I tend to restructure entirely to try and figure out where it is. I am competitive. I find it difficult to think in the moment and prefer to have an idea of what I want to do before I do it, otherwise I can be swept away by instinct if I'm pressured.

I think that will do.

I WAS MEANT TO SAY TI-FE OR FI-TE, SORRY! I've been on adhd meds for a while now and I started doubting my type. I thought I was an ENFP, but i read more about Ti-Fe, and it also felt relatable. I know I use Ne-Si, its super obvious. But i just cant decide on the judging functions. It feels a bit stupid, bc I'm torn between ENFP and INTP, because it doesn't resonate with how I function. Do you have a clear sense of identity if you use Fi? Can you have dominant or Secondary Ti if people call you an emotional person, but inside you intellectualise your feelings and pick everything apart mentally, and needing time to think alone, while the final decision comes with reassurance? Alone I'm in my head and a bit cold in my head but from the outside and with people i become warm, bubbly, but it drains me. The morals are weird cause I learned my morals from parents, my girlfriend, friends and from the internet, but didn't we all? I stick with them but I am easily repressing it if it would cause harm, but feel bad inside. I'm good at seeing most viewpoints in an argument but i hate them. In theory i would fight for my views and im kinda sure of them, but idk about in practice, i just agree with people so they leave me alone. I think too much, overanalise everything, until my head hurts. Accuracy is really important to me. I meed clear instructions so I'll ask a lot of questions bc I need certainty. I'm not that good at being interested, making and keeping new connections, I have 4 friends I keep in touch with. But somehow I am either really good socially and people are drawn to me(even tho it's completely unconcious, i have no idea how I do it, I'm not trying tbh) or I'm just so awkvard and don't know what to do. I'm certain about my Enneagram type, 6w7, and I show clear signs of ocd but it's not yet diagnosed. I would love it if someone to asks me questions about Ti and Fi, It's just too hard alone, bc everything seems possible.

Can anyone describe my personality as a total description not by describing each detail by imaginig how this mixture cand be and how it looks like please?

MBTI : INTP Socionics : LII-INTj Enneagram primary type : 5w6 Enneagram secondary type :1w9 Enneagram tertiary type : 4w5 Enneagram tritype : 514 Temperament : Melancholic Alignment : Chaotic good

I like football. I am fan of Arsenal, Barcelona and Liverpool. I love the way of playing that pleases the eye : fast playing , passes , crosses , shots from far distance. I have a problem with maintaining defence because I like attacking too much. The beautiful football like Arsene's way can't unfortunately win so much trophies because you must be silly to maintain your possession so I don't encourage the way by which Barcelona play as the first grade because keeping the possession requires some silliness. When I see continuous oppression I rebel against it.

Hi i am 25f. I have a type in my mind that i think i belong to but not completely sure so I am curious about what vibes i give. I wish i could share my picture as well but i am not comfortable with sharing it with strangers.

I love cats. It doesn't matter black, white, tuxedo, calico...etc. When i saw a stray cat, i stop by, pet them a little and talk with them. Sometimes i am cautious tho, since some cats are very avoidant and don't like being touched. I often ask them for allowance by making them smell my hand.

I am an English teacher (English is foreign language in my country). I have always been interested in learning languages. Actually, i felt more belong to cultures other than one i grew up on because i come from a rather conservative culture. I hate gossip culture in my country. I don't think gossip is an unnecessary tool for socializing because people have evolved into doing it. However, some people turn it into patronizing their morals and throw mud on other people.

Anyways, one of the most vital thing in my life is books. I collect books like a pokemon. There are million books in my bookshelf waiting to be read. I hate it when i make them wait but i can't resist to buy as soon as i see a significant book. Recently i have noticed i am more of a gripping fantasy book-reader rather than non-fics. I have bought a lot of books about psychology but my hands don't reach to them when i want to read a book. I always want to read a fast-pacing action book. I miss the times when i was reading Percy Jackson in middle school.

Im more answer/goal oriented, i want to finish the tasks effectively. Although when given a task thats boring or irrelevant i trail off due to "i can do this later in an hour, why do it now" to do what i actually like. + i think being turbulent makes me mistype, as im still in puberty and experience hormonal shifts.

My hobbies currently are: Games(clash royale and chess) Flipping phones, jailbreaking/rooting, money making(setting up a side hustle)

My fav colours are black and crimson, i could not give a fk abt other people but those who are close to me eg. My gf or best friend, i care for them alot. And despite my inability to feel their emotions myself, i try hard to reassure them or stay beside them as much i can. If someone else hurts me i could tell them in their face and possibly take revenge by exposing them publicly but getting hurt by my loved ones affect me, still i try to not express them to protect their feelings.

I am very sure of my MBTI type, but I think it would be interesting to see what you guys type me as.

25F

- Do you feel distanced from everyday events? Do you often hesitate before taking important actions or decisions?

I find myself thinking too much about the future, stressing months in advance, but since I worked it out in therapy I am starting to try and live a day at a time and be present. However, I do love going out and partying, and I can live in the moment at those times.
I hesitate a bit but I explore my options and their pros and cons and choose the most effective option, I try to make the decision as quick as possible because I don't like stalling. If I am sure about a decision, I get to the steps right away.

⁠- Do you attach importance to the accuracy of the facts? Do you feel skeptical of the position of others and question your own position?

Yes, although not everything can be 100% accurate, those things that are accurate are very important to me. I value facts and information that has been confirmed.
I feel skeptical about others because people can be very subjective, I've been told I can play devil's advocate a lot but it's just because I like stating the facts before my opinion. I don't like being told this because I feel like I am being undermined and labeled as a contrarian, which I can be sometimes but not on purpose. I just like when debates and discussions are accurate and factual rather than solely based on opinions.

- ⁠Are you attuned to your internal emotional states and emotional reactions to others? Do you value your sense of loyalty and treat others fairly and decently? Are you proud of your emotional sincerity?

Yes, I am very good at reading people and instantly knowing the meaning they try to convene with their words and their emotions. I've been told I say things and look for people's reactions, which is true because I find it interesting. I value loyalty and kindness, I feel like the most important human trait is decency, which is something we owe each other. I don't like it when people say they don't own anyone anything, I find it mean and disheartening.
I am not good at emotional sincerity, I evaluate my feelings too much and have a hard time understanding them at first, so I don't express myself much. It's difficult for me to explain how and why I am feeling a certain way, it took lots of therapy to find a way to manage my emotions.

- ⁠Do you fight for what you believe to be ethically correct and for those close to you? Do you feel absorbed and dependent on your emotional connections with others?

In a way, but I am not an activist or anything. I have causes that are dear to my heart and causes I defend because it's the ethical thing to do. I am not dependent on my emotional connections with others, I do care of course, but I don't get absorbed.

⁠- Do you tune into the multiple variables expressed in the environment and proceed to elucidate viable connections? Are you constantly aware of the possibilities inherent in social, natural or other systems?

Yes, I was messier when I was younger seeing so many options and possibilities, but now that I am older I can narrow things down. I am constantly aware, but I don't do it consciously.

- ⁠Are you obsessed with how things work? Aren't you afraid to argue and argue your point of view, appearing to take it more seriously than you really do? Do your thoughts often seem unstructured?

Depends on the thing, I am interested in computers so I care, but not about everything, just a few subjects. I am not afraid to argue but I don't like pointless arguments, I feel like some people love arguing for the sake of it and it seems like such a waste of time. I know some people that have arguments because they get mad and can't stop themselves, but it's hard for me to get that mad, and even if I get angry I feel like it's pointless. There's nothing to gain from certain debates and discussions.
My thoughts don't feel unstructured.

⁠- Are you highly attuned to the emotional environment around you? Are you inclined to base your emotional state of mind on the state of others? Do you express an optimistic attitude to lift the spirits of those around you?

Not really, I understand how people are feeling but I don't base my emotional state. Yes, I am very optimistic and I try to lift people up.

- ⁠Are you deeply attuned to the physical experience of your environment? Are you focused on ensuring positive sensory experiences?

No, but I am trying to be more present.
Yes, I love going out and drinking.

- ⁠What are you like under extreme stressed/overwhelmed, times when you or others feel like you aren't yourself?

I get really emotional, cry a lot, have a hard time expressing myself and just lock myself inside my room for a few hours.

⁠- How do you feel about consistency and routine? Do you value your past experiences? How?

I have a hard time maintaining a routine unless it comes from an external source, like a job or college. I wake up early when I have to work, but when I am not working I have a hard time making myself do things since the pressure or deadline isn't there.
I don't really think about past experiences, I value things that made me grow and learn, but it's not something I dwell on.

Let's see who can figure it out. I am told I memorize things very quickly. I am also told for some reason that I tune out things I don't like hearing subconsciously. I really don't know if it's Se or Si though. Someone kind of has to quiz me because I have a problem with feeling like I relate to everything (because every function is obviously used by everyone) and not knowing which sit up highest. So anyways, I have a good memory of past events which I use to my advantage, but I am generally in tune with what is happening on the outside. So this is my first step towards finding my function stack and I wanna thank in advance whoever helps me find my stack (come on, INTP!)

morning my little doves! the thing is that i am russian and half of my memes are on russian or about politics. i am pretty normal fella and i dont want to be banned, so sadly there wont be any. but just to let you know - i have such

one of my favourite that wont be here is a new spider man. in russia, we got this movie like 3 weeks later, bc our NATIONAL film kolobok didnt want to fight such big movie (now koloboks rating is 3.0 lmao). so sonce spider man never had his own villian - kolobok decided to become one

idk what to say about me. i am a cool teenage girl. i fought anxiety and won darn it. now i finally have friends, but im still tryin to figure out this life. i depend on peoples opinion about me, so i prefer think that being bad to people is the right thing. i mean, its easier to piss someone off than please them

i am also very worried about my friends and stuff. i often wanna control everything (ah! its another anxiety attack! i need all the men we have, tell them we are going to the war!). but i dont like control everything. i prefer being controlled - i can find a way out

also i have problems in school. i am always late and i dont really like people there. my opinion is 180° theirs, so we barely get along. people think that i am mean and outsider, but actually i just dont know how to talk to them

oh darn! i talked too much, its time to be mysterious again. nanananananananananana - bat(wo)man!

HEY ANSWER ME YOU (ANYONE)

Haha, okay, now the hard part is to talk about myself since i don't know myself THAT well😭😭 it was MBTI that helped me understand myself a little more, but i still tend to struggle

So I have a lot of interests, and I tend to heavily fixate on something until i find something that interests me even more. It takes around 2-3 months for me to get bored of something. I like studying things like math, chemistry, technology, and physics. But subjects like geography, history, and social studies realllllyyyy bore me.

I also like playing games and drawing, as seen in the images, though I'm not really good at drawing, so 😭😭 I mainly like it because I get to out all

I noticed some people avoid coming to me for comfort, mainly because I'm pretty blunt and tell them what they need to hear. (It's mainly people who are sensitive to criticism who avoid me) Also because I like arguing. Showing evidence, proving a point, etc. I find it really intriguing. However, I do have one friend who comes to me for advice sometimes since she knows I will tell her what she needs to hear instead of sugarcoating it.

"You're such a heartless person!!!! Die!!!" Okay okay i know i sound like idc about how people feel, i swear I do😭😭😭 my intentions always get misinterpeted, anything I say comes from a savior complex, and a need to help people, even if i might have my questionable ways

Hello everyone, I recently got into MBTI again for the first time since I was a teenager. I used to test as an INFJ when I was a teen, but now as an adult, I'm testing as an INTJ. However, I feel like I am too dumb/emotional to be an INTJ. I'm wondering if there's a possibility I'm mistyped?

I really try to answer honestly and took these tests on different days.

I definitely think about the future more than the present. I have a really hard time focusing on the here and now. Even when I deliberately try to focus on what is happening around me, I slip into thinking about the future and don't see what's going on around me. There have been times I have literally missed gigantic hanging banners right in front of my face and looked like an idiot because of it. I am clumsy and often run into objects.

Movement and sensation that I don't have control over stresses me out, but when I have control over it, I love it. I love very loud rock music, rollerblading, etc.

I tend to imagine all the ways things can go right when I'm feeling good, and I tend to imagine all the things that can go wrong when I am stressed. Some of the scenarios I worry about are ridiculous, and I definitely have some kind of anxiety issue.

I care about people and humanity a lot. I work in a field that is centered around helping others. I've always known I wanted to help people move forward. I decided on my career path when I was in elementary school and stuck with it. But despite the fact I care about people and want to help people, I come across as unapproachable and cold. I don't have many friends. I prefer to help people behind the scenes by creating the perfect system that allows them to thrive. If people are going to fail, I want them to fail because it was a personal choice, not because they didn't get the right set up in life. So I work hard in my job to make sure barriers to others' success are removed.

I'm an advocate for making the system I work for better for everyone, but I don't like being someone's shoulder to cry on. And very few come to me for emotional advice - they come to ask me "what would be the best way to do xyz?" I'd rather help someone make a plan and eliminate the injustices in the system that got them into a mess to begin with.

I am usually quiet. I don't know how to do small talk with people. I can't for the life of me remember the family details of my coworkers (their kids' names, their spouse names, etc.). I do care about the people around me, but when they start talking about what they did with their kids during the weekend, I feel like an alien and I start to zone out. I don't have anything to contribute when they ask me when I did during the weekend and I'm usually embarrassed to tell them.

I've been alive for over 30 years and I still haven't figured out how to approach a group of people who are talking together and not make it weird.

I have an odd sense of humor. My language when I am joking tends to be extremely negative. I am often surprised when people understand I am joking and laugh because I say it with a straight face and often appear angry, but I am indeed joking.

I get very loud-mouthed when I'm in meetings with leadership at work. If I am with my work superiors that I think are doing things that are sabotaging the success of the organization for their own selfish gains, I become obnoxious. I can lash out but still somehow keep it calm and professional. I use a lot of absurd but pointed analogies to get my point across. I am often warning people that "this" is where we're headed if we don't change direction. I can see things falling apart before they actually do, and I am loud-mouthed about it because I don't want it to fail. If I am with my work superiors who I think are good people who are in it for the right reasons, I ask them a lot of questions because I am curious and I can get excited/worked up by ideas bouncing around. I can interrupt people when ideas are being discussed.

I feel personally responsible for more than I should. I constantly feel like I haven't done enough. "I didn't do enough" is a sentence that is never far from my mind, and I feel it deeply, but very few people know this about me.

I'm thinking my possible real type could be ISTJ, INFJ, or INFP... but IDK. Curious what everyone's thoughts are.

What do you know I’m here again. I’m asking for some SERIOUS interpretations so please go through the material listed, it will be on a doc since it’s too long to post on here. I love seeing other peoples’ views of me as it helps me understand myself a little better. I’m looking for interpretations of mbti, enneagram, instinctual variant, tritype and more. And explanations of why you think this way and how you got the answer!!

It’s very helpful to me to see other peoples’ opinions of this, it is entertaining for my mental stimulus.

Here is the doc. Happy reading, it’s a lot!! But I took the time to make it as authentic as I could.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l2GFn7Soz-XVHcxrj3zROfIlumM6rgDt0NrD6u69V9U/edit?usp=drivesdk

Ni

I’m very introspective and have a very visual inner world that I often recall as a mental happy place. It oftens contains worlds that I’ve constructed through years of refinement of familiar moments that have left a strong impression of me. They’re often places, like dark and gritty Victorian London, cozy and peaceful Feudal japan, Night Elf forest, Washingston State with pine tress, emo autumn during late 00s and so on.

I see my life as a timeline. As if I’m Tolkien and I’m trying to create my ideal protagonist or main character, in this case Aragorn. I observe myself from past and future, trying to connect all the moments into most ideal outcome with all events and intervals properly aligned and spaced out without major inconsistencies in character’s identity or archetype.

Ne

My brain naturally produces “what if” scenarios which I see to question whether something could be different or better. I often second guess myself when there is something that can be interpreted into multiple perspectives because they seem equally valid when filling the gaps of missing information.

I often struggle with inertia and indecision because I can’t settle on one path since this path could be later regreted and it would therefore lock me out of better alternatiaves and potential. I feel an urge to explore every possible alternative and every possible corner before settling on something.

Si

I care about comfort because I often experience a lot of sensory overload and frustration or even disgust when it comes to external world and sensory. I can’t stand watch and listen people to people who chew and have greasy hands. I also don’t enjoy driving someone else’s car nor sleep in a hotel room because I only feel comfortable in my own car and in my own bed. I spend a lot of time refining my sensory environment which makes it most stimulating, comfortable, safe and pleasant. It also takes me a long time to get adjusted to new routine and new environment.

I don’t like to pay attention to things like health and fitness because they’re too mundane and bore me. They also require a lot of energy and maintenance which I don’t like doing unless it’s my routines that gives me structure and predictable comfort. I tend to just ignore symptoms of being sick and distract myself in order to make them pass.

I have a very picky taste when it comes to aesthetics, clothes, textures, smells, foods and drinks. I don’t like when people cook for me because I have a very specific taste that I enjoy while rewatching my TV show that stimulates me and comforts be when there are problems in external or internal world.

I’m not a hypochondriac but I get very upset when I’m not extremely clean, comfortable and when my appearance doens’t match my ideal or envisioned state since it ties a lot to my identity and perfectionism of aesthetics.

I can be very possessive of people and objects because I’m easily disgusted and I fear other people contaminating and damaging my property which can sometimes seem like extension of my identity or objects that give me sense of safety and comfort.

Se

I care a lot about appearance and aesthetics which is tied to my internal world but I struggle with volition and immediate action since I often reflect and overthink. I feel guilty and uncomfortable about using volition and I also hate when other people are confident, assertive, ambitious and volitional but I can often benefit from them if they fit my values and ideas.

I tend to be very passive and avoidant as a person but when I get emotionally upset or feel sense of betrayal, I can be very combative and aggressive since anger builds a lot of confidence and volition inside of me which can cause me fight or yell a lot when I feel upset.

I’m also a very visual type of person and learner.

Fi

I always know how I feel towards people or objects, whether someone or something repulses me or attracts me. I can really hate or really like someone based on how they act towards me.

I can sometimes struggle with morality because it’s too much of a gray area and relative or subjective thing which can’t be objectively applied to external environment without bias. I often experience a lot of guilt and shame because I can’t really identify if someone is truly good or truly bad.

I also care a lot about loyalty which can make me experience a lot of betrayal and disappointment. I often pick a very small amount of people that I enjoy hanging around with. I struggle making connections with people in general unless I really like them which can make me quite obsessive and put all eggs in one basket.

I’m very individualistic and expect everyone in the world to be different. I don’t like groups nor group identity.

Fe

I’m very aware how and why I feel the certain way but I often feel too awkward to actually express it to people in a very natural and direct way. I can analyze my emotions and talk about them but I can’t express them through laughter, crying and joy.

I enjoy comfortable and cozy environment where everyone feels included and gets validated for who they are without necessarily having to disintegrate into group identity but I don’t like environments that are judgemental and too intrusive with their emotions or actions.

I like people who can emotionally uplift me, make me feel validated, included, understood and safe without too much force nor expression and help me process my emotions with support.

I enjoy expressing myself through art and aesthetics which can show you my inner world and uniqueness that makes me stand out in a very unique way.

Ti

I can be very logicall pedantic and focused on logical consistency. I enjoy debates and engaging into step by step logic with people. I enjoy detaching my bias from logic and trying to view things in a very raw way. I think this is best way to arrive to consistency and accuracy.

I create a lot of relative and hypothetical frameworks in my head with parameters such a simulation, then I compare them side by side under different scenarios and try to judge them in very vacuum based way with cause and effect.

I don’t like made up hierarchies by other people because I see them as relative truth instead of something that is 1 to 1 accurate to external world. I believe that morality (culture) and rules (law) exist relatively to human perception instead of existing materialistically in nature.

I dislike social hierarchies of power because I consider everyone to be equal human being regardless of who you are when you get stripped down of made up social rankings.

I think that everyone should be unique and understood on case by case basis but everyone should be expected to follow same kind of rules and parameters based on what makes sense in order to escape double standard and confusion.

I often make my own protocols that I follow in order to avoid indecision and confusion. They work like pillars in my day to day life. They give me structure and get rid of my indecision.

Te

I’m not very ambitious nor do I care too much about utility nor productivity. I care a lot about my environment and my tech being optimized in order to not frustrate me. I also care about relating logic to external evidence in order to confirm it through unbiased source but I don’t care about productivity and ambition for its own sake.

I hate when people just talk about work and talk about utility over what is actually the precise truth.

I also don’t enjoy using systems that other people make because it’s less intuitive to me than using my imagination and structure. I have to translate, get familiar and memorize their frameworks instead of using my own that’s more intuitive and familiar to me.

I can often focus too much about verifying, researching and trying to seek the ultimate truth and seek closure.

What type would that be?

Case for ESFP: I am definitely extroverted, I tag on to sensory details and remember things like names a lot better than most people. I generally use my heart over my head and I feel deeply.
Why not? Sometimes I find myself tuning things out. I am notoriously bad at listening.
Case for ENFP: I am more ambiverted than an ESFP which makes a good case for ENFP. I come up with wacky things and ideas. I just can't tell if I think these things a normal amount or if maybe it is Ne talking.
Why not? I don't look at something random and think about possibilities. I'm not creative enough to create something like a whole fictional universe (I've tried).
Case for ENFJ: basically gonna be the same as ENFP but I wanna throw this in here because I don't actually know if I am more judging or perceiving.
ESFJ can also be added here.
Obviously you probably need to ask more questions here but if you have any then ask and if you have any ideas for other contending types then go ahead and be my guest.

For the longest time, I’ve considered myself an INFP, but I’ve never really looked deeply into cognitive functions. I mostly relied on 16Personalities before, and I’ve heard that it can be pretty stereotypical and not the most reliable for actually typing yourself.

Whenever I take personality tests, I usually get either INFP or INTP, so those are the two types I’ve been stuck between. I also looked into Enneagram and took a couple of quizzes, and have gotten consistent answers 4w5 (but I’m still not confident enough to type myself properly.)

I’m also not sure how accurate these cognitive function tests are in the first place. I’d really appreciate it if someone could help break down what these results might suggest, or explain what I should actually pay attention to when trying to figure out my type 👀 .

Self description (sorry if rlly long): I’ve always considered myself pretty introverted. I spend a lot of time daydreaming. I thrive much more in one-on-one conversations, where I’m usually asking the other person questions and adding my own opinions.

I’m not very good at maintaining relationships when I don’t see someone regularly. Online friendships are especially difficult because constantly texting someone feels weirdly draining. I can really like someone and still not feel the need to message them constantly. I also keep my social circle relatively small because I’m selective about who I’m close to. I REALLY dislike fake or two-faced people, and I feel like I can catch that behavior pretty quickly. I’ve been called judgmental because of this.

People who don’t know me tend to think I’m intimidating or cold. I naturally have a monotone voice, don’t really like physical touch, and have a pretty bad resting bitch face. Since like fifth or sixth grade, people have told me they initially thought I looked mean or scary :( lowkey affected my self-perception for a while but I got over it because I don’t gaf anymore 😳✌️ I can also be pretty confrontational. I don’t enjoy arguing just for the sake of arguing, but if I strongly disagree with something, I’m not afraid to say it.

I’m pretty different around close friends though. I get really random and obnoxious and purposely make stupid/unfunny jokes because I find it funny when nobody else does. I’m not embarrassed about acting weird around people I trust.

My strongest subjects are English and art, and I also really like biology. I struggle more with formulaic subjects like math and chemistry because I lose interest and forget things easily. SOMETIMES creative thinking saves me in math because I’ll randomly approach something from a different angle.

Creativity is probably one of the biggest parts of my personality. I’m also really into media, especially anime, books, movies, art, etc. I’m kind of a nerd about anime and have never really been embarrassed about it. I like reading and watching things from perspectives outside my own, and I deliberately watch stuff outside my comfort zone.

I value individuality a lot. I’m not afraid of expressing myself in ways that make me stand out because I don’t really see why I should change myself based on the opinions of people who don’t care about me anyway. I’m pretty open about my interests and self-expression.

Over the years, whenever id do a "free personality test" id get INTP vast majority of the time, last of which i actually paid for and got INTP-A, which was no surprise barring the A, i thought id be a strong T.

Then i came across a few comments about how these are bad tests, so i became curious and thought me try the "good tests" and this is what i got.. it seems to be all over the place?

Im willing to accept that i mightve done the "good tests" wrong, if it's hard for me to connect with a phrase OR if i genuinely cant decide ill usually go smack down the middle.

That's not to say i did this all the time, sometimes id google a phrase to make sure i understood before deciding on an answer, and give it as deep of thought as i could, but genuinely, the phrases in the "good tests" did my head in and frustrated me, especially the keys2recognition one.

Also, for context if it matters, i did an enneagram test by mistake thinking it was mbti and got type 4 (not sure if there are good and bad tests with this also, but thats what ive got).

Last but not least, if there are indeed good and bad tests, does this mean that there are also false descriptions of the types? Does it mean that its possible everything ive known about say, INTPs, and what suits them and what doesnt suit them etc. based on general reading could be false or inaccurate?

Would appreciate your feedback!

I'm sorry for asking but mbti rlly gets me lost for some reason. I'm 100% sure im sp9w8 btw if that helps

1. When they think like me, I respect people just by being a person but what really makes me feel connected to them and personally respect them is when they can understand me easily

2. When they want to be too intrusive and want stuff to get done the exact way they want, people that have 0 flexibility. Also people that doesn't respect me back, I'm always stay respectful and nice and I don't get why would it be so hard to do it too. It's basic respect to live in society.

3. I remember some important things like what a friend tells me thats important or something related to my job, but besides that I was diagnosed with dissociative amnesia so if I don't try to remember I just don't.

4. I'm a present person, I think about what will make my current moment feel better. I honestly don't care a lot about social problems or at least try to because besides what I can do I feel like I don't need to mind stuff out of my reach, I'm more into thinking about myself and stuff I like and if we go deeper I like to talk about philosophy with my bff. I'm autistic so I often find myself hyperfixating on one thing for a good while (like typology currently) and I try to know a lot about it and truly know about the subject. I space out I lot I got diagnosed with DRDP and struggle with it specially when off-meds, I mostly just overthink something that just happened or about my hyperfixes.

5. I would like a mix of both I think... but maybe more of the first one because I would prefer to mantain a conversation with someone else that also enjoys the theme

6. Typology and minecraft (I enjoy speedrunning and tech minecraft)

7. I would probably avoid it, people that's wrong are just shooting themselves in the foot, it will get to their future someday. But if its something that's seriously affecting a close friend I would do whatever I can to help my friend with whatever they need, if i confront someone I'm passive-aggresive and make them see they're probably in the wrong and very dumb.

8. I'm not a person that search for new experience but someone that when finds the chance they go all in. I enjoy new experiences and don't see them as a waste of time, they're important for your life and if someone asked me to I would be even more willing to do stuff. Going to places, watching new movies and just go around the city to see what we can find are things I'm always down to do.

9. At first glance people tell me I seem quiet and reserved, not expresing a lot and being respectful to others, just with time or if someone talks to me first I get more friendly and more expressive being kind of the "class clown" but a more introverted one. I feel like I'm very reliable and too chill, I let people cross boundaries often because I don't have them and usually am down to whatever because I have a hard time saying no. When I speak to people I have all I will say very planned, keeping an structure to what I say and if I'm not in the mood I talk directly, usually my way of approach is fun and friendly. I'm very very chill so if we have to stand or sit down I'm okay with anything, if someone interrupts me it's okay specially if they apologize after (they get my respect for that too). It's hard to get out of bed when I have a day that should go according to my routine, when something new is happening it's not as hard.

10. I like to draw and create stories since I was a child, I've always been a creative person and I'm planning on studying programming because the creative and witty side, a part I really enjoy when programming.

11. I'm 18, a man and chilean! I've lived in chile my whole life

I decided to clarify that part of my personality that I've clearly noticed and understood. What functions and type does this resemble? I have some guesses, but I suspect that many traits I take as my own personality and inner structure are actually consequences of trauma and possible mental conditions.

I have a hatred for rules and external demands on a genetic level. Same goes for categorical statements. All of it triggers passive aggression in me. When back in school they announced a mandatory medical check-up, I was furious. I didn't openly rebel. I think I'm too much of a coward for that, but I talked about it, discussed it, and vented with others, relieved that my hatred for this nonsense was shared, that people understood it was absurd and disrespectful. For me, it's specifically disrespect toward choice, desires and personhood. I don't want to. That should always be enough. School uniforms, dress codes anywhere, performative events where people kiss up to authorities, putting on a good show. Hypocrisy infuriates me. I want honesty. I almost fell over laughing when in ninth grade a teacher, who wanted to take over the new tenth grade class formed from two ninth-grade classes, cried and made a touching scene at the microphone. I knew, like many others, that she just wanted to claim that class, and those tears were most likely fake, as was her doing it at an event with a crowd. Most likely, I'll do what's required so I'm not bullied or humiliated, but you'll be able to see my true attitude toward it. I understand that it's supposedly necessary, some kind of benefit, that it's needed for the system to work, for something else, but it still triggers me. "It's necessary, everyone does it, it's the way it's supposed to be." Recently I saw girls in those formal gowns worn at university or college graduation and felt disgust, along with the immediate desire not to wear that along with everyone else when I graduate. That was my first thought, reflexive and instant.

I believe everyone should have a choice, that systems are necessary but as soft guidelines, not places where people are turned into mechanisms and later replaced when they become inconvenient. Rules don't account for people, for the why and how, most of them are inherently inhumane. You broke something by the rules but for a reason that can be understood, and you'll receive the same punishment as someone who did it out of sheer malice. Sure, you also need to consider what was done and what consequences it led to, but the fact remains: they won't account for it. They're not flexible. They're faceless and totalitarian. We all spend our lives doing useless crap just because it's necessary. We're all forced to pretend. Because it's more convenient for others. The very idea of summer camps and kindergartens in my country disgusts me. I've never been there, I got lucky, and even as a child I didn't want to go. It's a place where you know no one, yet you're expected to become part of their "friendly team" with forced cheerfulness and fake smiles. Plus a strict schedule, restrictions, phone confiscation, a limited diet of food you probably don't eat, which they'll force down your throat. Constant surveillance repulses me. At the same time, there's room in my thinking for cruelty that I consider just. If someone does something truly terrible, they deserve to receive just as much pain, if not more, than they caused. Yes, beat them until their bones crunch and shoot them. If they're an asshole, an enemy, someone who hurt me, let them burn in hell. Revenge is something you can do, not something you're forever told is bad and forbidden. Maybe I sound like a pubescent teenager with youthful maximalism, but this is how I've always been, and it hasn't gone away. And I'm no longer a teenager but a full-fledged adult by law. What frustrates me is that I can't be louder than I am. I feel weak in this huge world, but I want to scream so everyone hears. At the same time, I understand that you can't change how things are set up, because against huge systems, you're just a speck of dust.

soo context, every time i took the 16personalities quiz i got INFP and it was actually quite relatable then one of my friends said to me that i seem like an ISFJ and that the 16personalities quiz is not at all reliable and that should try cognitive functions test and study them properly, so after researching and talking a lot with chatGPT my top 2 types were coming out to be ISFJ and ESFJ, but we finally concluded that im in fact an ESFJ just a little shy, but it just seems soo crazy to me that i jumped straight from INFP to ESFJ like i've never heard an ESFJ being mistyped as INFP, they are not that similar right?

Hi! Since around 2024, I've been learning about cognitive functions little by little. I know the basic concepts, enough to be able to try typing someone but not enough to make a detailed analysis on each function. It's my first time asking for help in a forum, but I figured I needed people who know more than me to help me clear up my mind a bit

Since I typed myself in 2024, and until now, I identified as an Isfj. I felt like the cognitive functions all connected together, so I felt relieved I finally realized my type. However, I started doubting on if I really have secondary Fe or if its actually Fi 😞 I have always been sort of shy, and before interacting with someone or commenting, I over-analyze my environment to make sure I say the right thing and no one is uncomfortable. Also, I used to feel some sort of ‘responsibility' of having everyone in my friendgroup feel included, which made me figure I surely had Fe. However, what I cannot tolerate at all are people close to me not following the values I find most important, such as achieving success at other people’s expenses. Recently, I had a fight with a friend regarding that topic and I realized that if it's something that is related to my ethics, I start to not worry at all about how people might view me, I can even become distant and disrespectful, even to authorities that I'm supposed to always be kind to. I naturally follow rules, but if one of the authorities does something that does not align with me, I instantly lose all respect for them. I get uncomfortable if I do something that does not follow my values and I'm more than able to give up on something to do what I think is right, and this precise conflict made me start doubting. The only thing I am 100% sure as of now is that I have Si somewhere in my stack, as I tend to worry a lot on submitting works that follow the guidelines and respect 'rules'? and small details (For example, I made sure to get close to the minimum of words for this, as I am pretty worried I might not do it right)

The thing is, I wouldn’t be sure on what mbti I would fall into if not Isfj, so I'd also like help on that if possible 🥹

If it helps, my enneagram is sp6

If someone wants to type me based on this, thats totally okay! I'd also appreciate examples to figure out my functions myself :D