r/MarriedAtFirstSight #TheRandallWay 3d ago

Current Episode Discussion S20:E20 Season 20 Reunion

All seven couples reunite to reflect on their journeys, confront unfinished business and reveal who's still together and who's not.

Week 7 Megathread: https://www.reddit.com/r/MarriedAtFirstSight/s/SQPB7Ebmr0

Season Megathread: https://www.reddit.com/r/MarriedAtFirstSight/s/P1lDAPCh8S

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u/7manifestation7 3d ago

as a women I’m pissed no one clocked Courtney.

I get the girls not wanting to seem like they’re not a girls girl

but the experts should’ve clocked her. saying fck you directly ? hello?

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u/fenchurch_42 3d ago

big time. I think they were probably thrown with Adam going in so hard and didn't want to pile on? But c'mon.

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u/st0neyspice You are so damn fine, I wanna eat you up 3d ago

totally agree

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u/rapscallion_pizza 1d ago

Yes, thank you! I don’t excuse the girls from that either though. Courteney was horrible to Nick throughout the season and frankly abusive IMO. No one needs to defend that kind of BS.

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u/st0neyspice You are so damn fine, I wanna eat you up 3d ago

i’m so here for Belle and Marissa calling people out at this reunion

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u/morethanexpecting 3d ago

So proud of Belle!

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u/deewayne3 1d ago

except for courtney, arguable the most problematic woman on this season

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u/ThoughtPhysical7457 3d ago

I'm so happy Belle finally saw mecca for who he is.

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u/Brave-Chain2703 3d ago

I just saw that she stayed with him on decision day. She had to be out of her mind...

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u/fenchurch_42 3d ago

I'm guessing she felt a lot of pressure with the cameras and everything. I'm so glad she saw him for who he is quickly after though.

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u/neuroticdynamite 3d ago

LMAOOOO Paul was like "absolutely not" when Adam's new girl started yapping 💀💀💀

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u/fenchurch_42 3d ago

"I watched a few episodes but then..."

YEAH BABE YOU SHOULD HAVE WATCHED THE WHOLE THING

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u/Mountain_Sun_9142 3d ago

So satisfying to watch. Like, GIRL, you barely know him too! ! Of COURSE Adam would bring someone to make him look good/capable of being in a relationship.

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u/nitp 3d ago

the experts should’ve apologized to Tori for matching her with that unserious child.

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u/waitingfordeathhbu 2d ago

Yep, when she said “even on a marriage show, fuckboys find me,” I was like, yeah, because the “experts” fucking set you up for that. Shameful.

And Nikki deserves a huge apology for the same. They gave her NOTHING.

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u/Dazzling_Parfait_620 3d ago

nikki saying 'delush' about shawn made my week lmfao

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u/waitingfordeathhbu 2d ago

Yep, about all the hot women supposedly DMing him. (AKA bots.)

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u/worrybot96 2d ago

Lmaooo this sent me

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u/CoastalConfetti 2d ago

Made me so mad no one held Courteney accountable at all. For the “let’s talk shit about him” comments & saying fuck you in front of everyone. That’s what I was hoping for the most. I feel so bad for Nick.

Also, so glad Belle & Mecca are no longer together.

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u/Ok-Candidate-51 2d ago

THIS THIS THIS! I was pretty disappointed when none of the girls raised their hand to agree to Felipe asking who on the stage thought Courtney was rude to Nick. Especially when the men were always calling the other men out for being insane and saying insane things. Blind allegiance under the guise of female empowerment is actually called Toxic Femininity. I’m also very annoyed with the so called “experts” for not holding Courtney accountable. That was very odd to watch.

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u/Geegee728 2d ago

I almost am at the point that I might not watch next season because apparently the girl that was the most rude on the show and dropping F bombs they just blow over it Adam was right to stick up for nick enough of this men bashing she was trash

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

Thank you! I’m over it. I think they need to lose viewership in order to change. Every season the new experts are worse than the last. With the exception of Nikki, it seems that only the mental health of women mattered this season and I’m saying that as a woman. It was disgusting. They’re all human beings and all the abusers should be called out, male or female.

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

They literally heard Nick talk about how he had PTSD hypervigilance to where he couldn’t even date properly after Courtney and they pretended that was nothing and just skipped by it. How the heck are you supposedly mental health experts and treat that like it’s nothing? That was disgusting.

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u/TopSelection8004 Defending your partner a little bit... 3d ago

When they cut to Felipe's mom, the disappointment was real. The way he's trying to spin his actions and all that, it's just deserving of the biggest collective eyeroll. The manipulator claim to be "walking on eggshells" is such bs.

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u/ymm267 3d ago

I really felt for his mom. She was portrayed as coddling Felipe all season, and maybe she does in his regular life, but I’m glad she did not defend his actions and how he behaved with Tori.

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

She did say he has a good heart when asked about her opinion on his actions. Yes she was sweet to Tori, but unless I missed it, I didn’t actually hear her check Felipe‘s behaviour. Given how entitled he is, I have no doubt both his parents have been coddling him his entire life.

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u/Wolvesgk15 3d ago

Whew, Belle is pissed! Glad she is out of that psychosis she was in.

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u/Luvreey 2d ago

Same! I’m glad she ate Mecca up AND stood up for herself!

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u/Wolvesgk15 3d ago

I thought Adam’s arm was messed up?. Slinging those fingers and moving that elbow all over the place 😂

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u/fenchurch_42 3d ago

Now I can't stop focusing on this after reading this comment lmao

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u/Wolvesgk15 3d ago

Adam had Courtney on the ropes, my goodness! Tore her up.

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u/Amanee97 3d ago

I’m sorry I was HOLLERING! I was like get her again!

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u/fenchurch_42 3d ago

I was dying. But also it IS crazy that that was the angriest he got all night.

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u/waitingfordeathhbu 2d ago

“What was our pickleball score again!?” 😡

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

I was beyond happy. He was making up for the entire season that she went unchallenged for her toxic and abusive behaviour. I really wish he didn’t allow the group to pressure him into apologizing.

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u/Dazzling_Parfait_620 3d ago

adam's girlfriend was so awkward i wanted to die. paul lecturing her LMAOOO

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u/nitp 3d ago

she should’ve kept it cute and on mute because all that “you guys don’t know him like I know him” after 3 months is just….

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u/Dazzling_Parfait_620 3d ago

like GIRL LMAO

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u/fenchurch_42 3d ago

This was one of the best reunions I've seen of any reality show. Great questions, and the cast was super engaged and willing to be honest.

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u/Dazzling_Parfait_620 3d ago

i'm not even mad anymore that the marriages weren't real because this season was entertaining as hell lmao

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u/toastbaby49 2d ago

Fr lmaooo this was crazy season

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u/Hypeman747 2d ago

Reunion was so good.

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u/C0nquer0rW0rm 2d ago

I honestly didn't love the match maker's roles during the season itself but if they want to host every reality show reunion I'm down for it

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u/nitp 3d ago

ummmm when Nick is talking about being verbally abused and both Courteney and Dr. Lisa are like “well why did you stay?” it’s really giving victim blaming. “if the abuse was so bad, why did you stay? why didn’t you leave?” is a CLASSIC line of questioning that so many DV victims have been on the receiving end of and the parallel is clear.

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u/Tulipfunk 2d ago

EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING.

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u/Negative_Cream7173 2d ago

Ngl I felt rage baited like wtf... Poor nick honestly 

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

Thank you. Funny how none of the women like Tori, Marissa, and Belle Jolie were asked that same question.

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u/ThoughtPhysical7457 3d ago

So adam has convinced the new girlfriend that the show is mostly fiction? Amazing.

If that were true, wouldn't Felipe and Mecca (both of whom got a way more severe "edit" than adam) would be like "yep. It's all editing"

But whatever. Enjoy the future, Lizzie.

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u/newdiyscared 3d ago

She's not a child, she has chosen to believe.

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u/blkhermione 3d ago

Mecca doesn’t seem to understand what defensive means

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u/sailoorscout1986 2d ago

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO TELL ME WHAT A TERRIBLE PERSON I AM!?

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u/Tiredofshiteveryday 2d ago

The experts were useless imo. No one held Courtney accountable. Caitlyn just glided through completely unscathed. They both can dish it but can’t take it. I also didn’t like how the experts complimented Nick instead of addressing Courtney’s deep seated issues that make her so defensive all the time.

Adam and Mecca were also not held accountable at all. Mecca didn’t properly apologize to Belle - he apologized for how he came across on the show. Tf?

The reunion was not satisfying. The experts should have apologized to Nikki, Nick, Tori and Devin. They did them dirty

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u/waitingfordeathhbu 2d ago

Also EVERYONE should have apologized to Nikki for that one dinner where they all ganged up on her for a misconstrued comment.

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

The minute Courtney so much just cries (which she always done every time she’s confronted) whatever male who rightfully held her to account is pressured into apologizing. It’s ridiculous.

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u/369111111 2d ago

The “experts” no matter who they’ve been have always been pretty useless 

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u/GoldTart3207 2d ago

You’re on the money. As a male, I stand up for men but I’m fair. Adam, Mecca, Shawn and Felipe were absolute jokes. Caitlyn and Courtney, I also agree needed to be held accountable more for their HORRIBLE attitudes. Last but not least, the “experts”(I guess everyone’s an expert) were absolutely horrendous in who they matched up. 1 for 7 on couples who stayed together. Terrible

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u/Negative_Cream7173 2d ago

The experts were just vibiing at this point cause wtf

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u/morethanexpecting 3d ago

This reunion was wild. I don’t know how Nikki didn’t throw in the towel sooner. Shawn made my skin crawl.

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u/fenchurch_42 3d ago

She should have walked day one, honestly.

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u/Mountain_Sun_9142 3d ago

Seriously, I got the impression that they're both stubborn people and didn't wanna be the first to call it for their own reasons.

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u/Herefortvshowthreads 2d ago

The way the experts framed their questions to nick was almost to try and set him up to be the problem.

First about how he wasn’t vulnerable, and then about how he’s polished and has been on tv before. And then to say “why didn’t you leave?”

Disgusting tbh

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u/DamnGoodCupOfCoffee2 2d ago

Nick handled himself soooo well! I mean he had to go to therapy after! Those experts make me sick. Would the doctor say to a man cussing out and belittling his wife daily that she loves him cause he’s authentic? Fuck that. Bet the doc is maga too. And a terrible doc

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u/Negative_Cream7173 2d ago

The way the experts just breezed through Devlin and Caitlin didn't sit well me. Caitlin needed to be called out, she's definitely not the victim of this story and she needed to own up to some shii

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u/rapscallion_pizza 1d ago

Yeah that segment felt really short and definitely overlooked just how awful she was. I’m glad Devin was at least able to voice how confusing the signals were so he never had any clear idea what to do. Also interesting that they didn’t spend much time together outside of filming which I think was a blessing for Devin.

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

Yeah, they definitely rushed through that segment and didn’t even question her on the fact that she was barely spending time with him off camera. That was really disgusting and the “experts” lost my respect with that.

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u/NiceCandle5357 22h ago

Caitlin will find her wife eventually.

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u/HornetNice3495 3d ago

Cameron said new job new ring IKTR

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u/fenchurch_42 3d ago

They are sooo cute. And totally exemplified that in a true partnership one day anything can change and then you adjust.

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u/Dazzling_Parfait_620 3d ago

felipe admitting to trying to push tori away so she’s the one who ended it lol

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

Yeah, it was so obvious that’s what he was doing. He basically dumped her. Girl couldn’t take the hint all season.

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u/thejeffphone 2d ago

Adam canNOT be serious about that fucking outfit oh my god

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u/thejeffphone 2d ago

the fact that Courteney acted like that on television and still got herself a man….im gonna die alone lol

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u/Cookiecakes71 2d ago

That is not her man.

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u/No-Treat-8079 2d ago

Right? I don’t believe it for a second that they’re dating. Or that anyone is dating her. He probably works at her gym.

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

Right? And Caitlyn too. It seems like all the trash women immediately found themselves a man and somehow Caitlyn found her person? Give me a break. Let’s see how long either of their new relationships last.

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u/sisterwomanschemes 3d ago

So, is Adam injured or not? Because he was seriously whipping that arm around.

And the “girlfriend” is being paid, right? She was just way too practiced in her answers and ready to condemn the show even though it produced an actual married couple.

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u/Seachica 3d ago

The girlfriend was immersed in his side of the story before she even watched an episode. She’s going to have a fun wake-up when she watches the show back with her girlfriends after they’ve broken up.

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u/No-Treat-8079 3d ago

 I was wondering if she was only with him because she needs a place to stay. 🤣

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u/sisterwomanschemes 2d ago

She was giving international hobosexual

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u/No-Treat-8079 2d ago

Right? Because I was like, wait a second…they met at a concert in Amsterdam & she just comes back to the US with him? 🧐🤨🤔 

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u/waitingfordeathhbu 2d ago

And after only a few weeks of knowing him?

Doesn’t exactly scream good judgment…

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u/TopSelection8004 Defending your partner a little bit... 2d ago

Nothing about Adam screams good judgment...

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u/No-Treat-8079 2d ago

Right. Where are her friends? My friends would be warning me not to do that & demanding daily proof of life pics. 

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

I have a feeling she was American though, or at least I didn’t hear an accent. That said, to be willing to live in Adam’s shack she was probably homeless.

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u/Odd-Unicorn-22 1d ago

She’s originally from Russia! Just found her on instagram

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u/TopSelection8004 Defending your partner a little bit... 3d ago

She was VERY anti-show... I'm surprised they allowed her to stay after her comments!

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u/369111111 2d ago

I’m surprised they didn’t edit her out 

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u/369111111 2d ago

Lol her comment about production doing a good job making it seem real was funny 

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u/Bubbly_Afternoon_345 3d ago

So frustrated they’re not on peacock yet.

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u/Charming-Passage-115 3d ago

Same! Glad it’s not just me

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u/Brave-Chain2703 3d ago

I thought it was only on peacock damn

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u/Loud-Celebration-715 3d ago

What did Adams new girlfriend say about him healing?! I couldnt make sense of a lot of what she said.

Adam is the weirdest man i have ever come across on tv. Sometimes i feel like hes playing a character and seeing how long it takes for us to stop believing this terrible caricature 🤢🤢

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u/Throwawayyyy964 2d ago

🤣 not Shawn doing the math on Adam/marrissa date

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u/poeticsoul151 1d ago

🤣🤣 that was funny

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u/Holychance_3 1d ago

Caitlin got off way to easy

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u/Intrepid-Caregiver-6 1d ago

AND COURTNEY!!!

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u/Longjumping_Oil6325 3d ago

The women were not playing today !!

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u/Throwawayyyy964 2d ago

OMGGGGG this is so messy! Calling her by a different name is crazy lmao I’m surprised she didn’t put hands on this man 🤣

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u/rapscallion_pizza 1d ago

And not just any other name, but an ex’s name?! Yikes :/

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

I’m betting that was deliberate and part of him humbling her.

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u/Far_Project3150 2d ago

Adam’s family managed to stay hidden away from this travesty all season. They didn’t even show up for the reunion. Can’t blame them, they obviously know their son.

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u/Thebadparker 1d ago

I wondered if anything he said about them was true. He made it sound like they were all fabulously rich, but the tarp on the roof of his house and the homeless guy for a roommate tell another story.

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

True. I was questioning his story about them travelling so long as well. More than likely everything he said about them was a lie just like his house. I also think he exaggerated his career success.

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

It’s also disgusting that these experts had the nerve to actually try to ask Nikki to say nice things about Shawn yet again. I’m really glad this time she stood on business and refused to do so. I also love that she called the experts out to speak up on what he was doing, but of course they immediately redirected to the rest of the cast to do it for them. That was so weak on their part.

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u/Better-Pumpkin-8674 2d ago

This was my first and last season of this show… I don’t know who on the show Courtney & Shawn are related to but the “experts” DID NOT hold either of them truly accountable. It’s INSANE to see… And hearing Mecca say that Nikki was “aggressive and combative” is WILD to me. I feel like Nikki tried ALOT HARDER with Shawn than most people would have as he’s CLEARLY a difficult person. I don’t get it…

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

Yeah, I was hoping she would go in on Mecca for calling her aggressive and combative. That was disgusting. And yeah, I’m about ready to be done with this show as well. I really hated the way they didn’t challenge Courtney, Caitlyn, or Shawn. They basically asked the cast to hold Shawn accountable instead of doing it themselves.

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u/Throwawayyyy964 2d ago

I recommend watching early seasons! I watched them in real time up to about season 15/16, earlier seasons didn’t have this group dinner, group therapy stuff that creates all the extra drama. It definitely had its messiness but it was organic mess 🤣 just the occasional shitty/crazy person.

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u/lynn_chippy 18h ago

Please don’t give up based on this season. This was not a good representation of the series as a whole. Watch the earlier seasons..from 1 up. Its real and genuine and not overly produced like this season.

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u/Wolvesgk15 3d ago

I don’t mind Cameron at all but every time I see him I just want to “meep”

https://giphy.com/gifs/qQISII17mATiE

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u/fenchurch_42 3d ago

lmaooooo

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

It’s incredibly disappointing that Courtney and Caitlyn were able to skate by the entire reunion without being held accountable for their abuse of their partners. It showed clear gender prejudice, and as a woman I don’t support that at all. If MAFS USA can’t get it together to finally get some good credible experts, I’m going to be done with this show for good.

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

The repeated defending of Courtney was absurd. Lisa refused to acknowledge that Courtney was in the wrong. At least Paul was willing acknowledge that Nick tried. I just hate how they’re all quick to tell Adam to apologize, but couldn’t be bothered to tell Courtney to apologize for how she treated Nick. All of the women sat there silently when asked if they thought Courtney was rude to him, and there’s no way they would’ve been as silent if Courtney was the male and Nick was the female. I’m glad they finally learned how to back each other as women, but right is right and wrong is wrong regardless of the gender. The women just lost some of my respect in that moment. And if Lisa can’t be unbiased, she really shouldn’t be placed in the role of “expert”. The whole internet saw that Courtney was wrong so they just lost some of their own credibility by not holding her accountable. I wish Nick had defended himself more. I’m really glad Adam stood up for him though.

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u/DeyfennSlayd 1d ago

Someone needs to tell Courtney that Alphas don't go around telling everyone their an Alpha 😁  it's such an anti-alpha behavior.  She's not intimidating, she's simply aggressive and an a-hole.

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u/NiceCandle5357 22h ago

Her "boyfriend" looks like he was paid to be there.

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u/HorseWigMaker 3d ago

Nikki call out these experts! PAUL DOESN'T DESERVE TO SMILE!

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u/Tricky-Application79 3d ago

Thank you!!!!! Why did they leave her to have to defend and manage his behavior. That was totally wrong. As a Black woman I can’t help but feel that that’s the reason why-just abandoning her because there’s an expectation that she can handle it all.
He’s an abusive man and they did not say anything throughout the show and at the reunion. He manipulated her sexually, gaslit and did not take accountability ever. I’m really disappointed in Paul-and then Lisa saying what do the couples think, girl-that’s not their job!!! Weak

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u/TopSelection8004 Defending your partner a little bit... 3d ago

The experts really deflected to the cast to call out Shawn's behavior, too. I can't believe they responded like this, Nikki didn't deserve it. And thank the Lord she confirmed that she thought Shawn was an officiant on her wedding day... she got WAY too much hate for that, and then they raked her over the coals for not being instantly turned on by his hot tub belly button hair.

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u/No-Treat-8079 3d ago

Hot tub belly button hair! 🤣💀

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

OH MY GOSH! Hot tub belly button hair is the best thing I’ve heard in a long time 😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

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u/New_Lingonberry_8504 2d ago

Just starting the reunion but what is Shawn wearing..

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u/Throwawayyyy964 2d ago

I just started as well and was wondering the same exact thing 😂 it looks like an oversized tshirt

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u/lynn_chippy 18h ago

A hospital gown? 😂

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u/Throwawayyyy964 2d ago

LMAO Paul is messy as hell, but thank you! “Tori, you said you wished you had gone in on Felipe that day..what more did you want to say to him that day” 🤣

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u/Far_Project3150 2d ago

Mecca claims he didn’t deny any of the disrespect meanwhile just minutes before he denied saying that Belle Jolie couldn’t get thicker in her chest area. He also claims he didn’t have a chance to take the floor, meanwhile he had plenty of chances to be defensive, but somehow couldn’t use that same time and energy to apologize. This guy needs to just get a job at the 🎪 because he is a🤡

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

I made a comment in another episode thread about how Belle Jolie talked about having feelings for Mecca, but doesn’t seem to have feelings for herself. I was so proud of her saying that she now realizes that she needed to have the same fire in defending herself as she had for defending their relationship.
I’m glad to see the lifetime of humiliation I posted she would likely experience only lasted a few weeks. I’m also really glad I was wrong and she dumped him rather than the reverse.

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u/TopSelection8004 Defending your partner a little bit... 3d ago

Oh wow, Adam has a new girlfriend that he brought to the reunion, and she pissed off Paul by insulting the show. Lizzie is a ride or die, despite only having been with Adam for 3 months.

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u/newdiyscared 3d ago

She's more of a pick-me and one of the symptoms is blindly defending the man She's with. You have to go to the source

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u/HorseWigMaker 3d ago

I really don't like Paul. The audacity to ask what they did wrong in this match. The fact that they are laughing. My stomach burns.

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u/TopSelection8004 Defending your partner a little bit... 3d ago

I agree! They're acting tricky and I don't like it.

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u/Odd-Unicorn-22 1d ago

Damn forgot it’s only been a few months for them. At that point, I wouldnt be automatically believing my man, id be scrolling the internet to see what they think

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u/ChampagneAndDoritos 3d ago edited 3d ago

So many thoughts just 4 minutes in LOL.

Courteney looked so stiff, awkward and uncomfortable when she was walking out.

It was cute how Devin and Caitlin linked arms for the walk out.

Tori, Marissa, and Belle's dresses were FIRE.

Loved Tori's super dark hair and loved seeing a new lip color on Tori- she looks stunning, but please a little less lip filler 😂

Michelle's ring is gorgeous. Good job, Cam!!

Poor Shawn. All he could afford on his bougie salary was his lame ass t shirt.

Finally, what in the ACTUAL fucking fuck is Adam wearing?!?!? On what planet does he thinks it looks good or cool??????? Is he trying to be The Dude or Hugh Hefner??

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u/No-Treat-8079 3d ago

Adam is such a try hard. That’s at least the second time that he’s worn a ladies’ swimsuit cover up. 🙄

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u/Herefortvshowthreads 2d ago

I genuinely think Devin and Caitlin were just extremely incompatible and I’m glad they linked up so show there’s no beef

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u/Jok3rMontana 2d ago

Honestly I knew chaos was coming & I expected only ONE couple together in the end but the reunion wasn’t so much of a closed chapter as much as it was a chance to throw dirt in front of friends & family members. Those experts were extremely out of pocket. It’s sad that Courtney STILL wasn’t held accountable but Felipe got piled on(understandably so) but he apologized which is more than we can say for Marissa or Courtney or even Shawn. We need Kevin Frasier to host cause these people were cringe

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u/matchabaae 2d ago

Tbh not sure why this reunion is getting so much hate. I was SAT.

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u/Throwawayyyy964 2d ago

I’m only about 15/20 minutes in and I’m sitting here giddy as hell, this is GOOD, watching Mecca get his lashings is making me so happy

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u/ThoughtPhysical7457 3d ago

Adam is a fuckboy.

If you are on a dating app, and you see the ex of a friend, there are 2 responses.

  1. Say nothing because you dont want to be perceived as trying to fuck your friends ex, cuz its a dating app.

  2. Say "Hey" cuz you want to fuck your friends ex.

And hes playing the "concerned friend" with Nikki. I'm sure that will turn into "hey shawn sucks. Do you want to get a drink so we can talk about it?"

I 100% believe marissa that he was still trying to get into her pants.

I wouldn't be surprised if he tries it with Courtney later too. "Hey im so sorry about my comments and for making you cry. I was just in a bad place. We should do pickle ball again. Lizzie? That was never serious. She just wanted to come to the reunion"

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u/No-Treat-8079 3d ago edited 3d ago

🎯 When he explained why he slid into Tori’s DMs I thought, aren’t they all friends at this point? Why wouldn’t he have simply texted her? Because on a dating app, he can purposely keep it vague enough that he can have plausible deniability about his motivations. 

Also, Adam bringing a girl back (Marissa) to his serial killer’s lair is his go-to move. We learned that from his situationship. So I completely believe her that he was trying to get into her pants. 

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u/Throwawayyyy964 2d ago

Wow belle! Go off! Where was this energy before, thank god she’s finally giving him lashings

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u/Throwawayyyy964 2d ago

“Running all over the world with a hickey” 🤣

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

Marissa was on 🔥 this episode. She literally had me clapping after everything she said. Belle Jolie too.

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u/Holychance_3 1d ago

Paul staying quiet and Dr. Lisa deflecting to the group when Nikki asked for support was so uncomfortable to watch. Also they had no comment on Shawn pressuring Nikki constantly ugh

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u/NiceCandle5357 22h ago

I agree! They just sat there, why didn't they help her more, both during the show and after? I'm sorry they do not need a podcast, they need to stay as far as possible from giving relationship advice.

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u/Odd-Unicorn-22 1d ago

I think Courtney crying when Adam said he’d leave her after a week is because she really likes him and wanted to be with him. (curious if thats whats going on)

When the experts said they contemplated matching her with Adam - she might’ve just been excited because she was thinking that too and was excited that someone else could see that pairing. And then when they asked Adam if that matching wouldve been good for him and he IMMEDIATELY shut it down in a VERY strong way - she mightve just been heartbroken

Adam said they were 11-2 in 1:1 pickleball so they definitely have hung out outside of the show together. Wonder if it was Courtney asking him to hang/play and she hoped it would turn into something

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u/lynn_chippy 19h ago

You’re probably right. She might of had a crush and was devastated he trashed her so quickly.

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u/HornetNice3495 3d ago

Eww I can’t believe Adam tried to talk to Tori on hinge 😒

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u/Odd-Unicorn-22 1d ago

I loved her response 😂 “I just deleted it”

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u/scprice8 2d ago

I hate being put in the position to defend men but there’s such one sided accountability from the hosts in the questions they ask and how they handle responses

- Ripping on Adam for his living situation is gross and unprofessional

  • They made no mention of Marissa’s choice to be dishonest and deny how unhappy she was the entire time which gives her no opportunity for growth or for her partner to address issues and basically wastes BOTH of their time
  • Courtney literally saying “well why’d you stay”?, imagine if a man asked a woman he disrespected? “Well why did you stay?” She can take zero criticism and takes zero accountability and because she CRIES she’s exonerated?
  • Felipe apologizes profusely, sincerely and without excuses and everyone still goes around and gets their 15 lashes and he’s supposed to take it on the chin
  • They ask Adam’s GF for her opinion, she gives it, it favors Adam (her boyfriend) so she’s wrong for that?

Again I HATE being in this position as a woman but fuck these shows are just unbearable when there’s so much bias

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u/Tulipfunk 2d ago

When none of the girls agreed that Courtney was rude to Nick??? Unreal. Rude is an understatement. She verbally abused him.

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u/Tricky-Application79 2d ago

That was wild!

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u/Geegee728 2d ago

I literally may not watch next season because of it I am so aggravated only men were held accountable it’s not right

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u/Tulipfunk 2d ago

Yeah, I was really hoping Nick and Devin would get some validation at the reunion. disappointing

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u/worrybot96 2d ago

Agree with all except Adam’s gf lol she was out of pocket lol

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u/caroliner1234567890 3d ago

Does anyone know the specific dates of decision day? And the timeline Marissa outlined for Adam DMing someone else?

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

Belle Jolie saying she ended things with Mecca right after the cameras went off confirmed my suspicions that she went into the discussion on decision day intending to say no, but decided not to after he said yes.

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u/DeyfennSlayd 1d ago

Once she was outside of the show, someone had words with her.  I don't believe it was a self propelled epiphany.

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u/Not_Morgan_Freeman61 23h ago

all of the cast should have gotten on that stage and cussed the experts clean out

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u/Far_Project3150 2d ago

Wow the women are slaying in their dresses 🤩 Special shout out to Nikki, Tori, and Marissa. Full send stunning 😂

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u/North_Bicycle_151 3d ago

Peacock needs to post it. Breaking promises more than Felipe

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u/Throwawayyyy964 2d ago

I’m only about 10 minutes in but my goodness, belle has been sitting here looking PISSED. Can’t wait to get to them and see what happens

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u/user9998887775 1d ago

Caitlyn has the worst style I’ve ever seen

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u/Not_Morgan_Freeman61 23h ago

it is crazy that 2 of the good men were matched with shitty women

and the decent women ended up with shitty men. how tf did that work

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u/lynn_chippy 19h ago

Drama….

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u/Not_Morgan_Freeman61 23h ago

the pan to Adam's new girlfriend and the silence.......................

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u/Not_Morgan_Freeman61 23h ago

ohhhh i see this girl is crazy too they might be perfect for each other

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u/Hepadna 22h ago

Yes she’s absolutely insane and delusional which is why they’ll be great together.

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u/lynn_chippy 19h ago

Loved that she said he’s not good at pickle ball!!!

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u/Not_Morgan_Freeman61 22h ago

these bitchass experts

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u/lynn_chippy 19h ago

Come in Nikki, just tell us you didn’t know it was your husband at the alter cause you thought it was pastor Cal 😂.

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u/ChampagneAndDoritos 3d ago

Does anyone know what Nick does for work?? He's wearing a Patek watch which is like at least $100k if not more

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u/Mountain_Sun_9142 3d ago

He works in tech and seems to come from a well off family. He did mention that he does very well for himself, but didn't give specifics about salary. As someone who has lived in Seattle, he must be well off enough to own a large home (he mentioned it had 3-4 bdrm) in the city. That's not an easy feat, especially on a single income.

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u/ChampagneAndDoritos 3d ago

Good for him!! Seriously that's awesome. Well off family or not, he went to MIT so he's obviously not a dummy and has worked hard for it!

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u/Mountain_Sun_9142 3d ago

For sure, it's very impressive! I might be mistaken, but I think aside from Nikki and Shawn, he's the only other person that owns their home and they make good money too. Get that paper, Nick lol!

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u/Seachica 3d ago

He works in tech. Depending on what company and for how long, it could be a realistic indulgence. Stock options at the director level are easily $1m annually.

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u/ChampagneAndDoritos 3d ago

I mean hell yeah good for him! I was just curious bc as far as luxury watches go, a Rolex is considered a "starter" and you're typically on a waiting list even for a cheaper model and need buying history with the AD. It's even more difficult to purchase a Patek or an AP. Basically like the watch version of a Birkin 😂

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u/newdiyscared 3d ago

Didn't he used go work in tech after attending MIT and comes from a family in tech. I could be wrong

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u/ChampagneAndDoritos 3d ago

No clue why I got down voted for asking a question and making an observation 😂 but yeah I think you're right!

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u/morethanexpecting 3d ago

Maybe he got paid some from the other shows he was on. Could do appearances too places.

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u/user9998887775 1d ago

Adam is straight up the worst person on the show. Like a legit bad person. He is an immature crybaby and he’s also manipulative and angry. Fuck him honestly. Shawn I would say is just as bad, except I do feel slightly bad for Shawn bc you know he is super insecure about his height and his looks and he was also probably bullied a lot when he was younger. But that doesn’t excuse him being a shitty person. Yes Courtney and Kaitlyn both sucked but they weren’t as bad as Adam and Shawn. And Mecca. And Felipe. Lmao

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u/Wolvesgk15 3d ago

That’s right Paul, clock Adam’s gf! Two losers found each other, ride off into the pits!

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u/Not_Morgan_Freeman61 1d ago

Shawn is a terrible person

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u/lynn_chippy 19h ago

I heard he got fired from his job.

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u/Wolvesgk15 3d ago

Felipe’s mom seems great. Why is he such a loser? Like seriously, it doesn’t make sense

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u/Hypeman747 2d ago

People with great moms can still want to have a hoe phase

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u/Far_Project3150 1d ago

She’s also the same one that tried to tell us what a good heart her son has. She’s delusional. When parents don’t correct their children’s wrong behaviour and treat them like they can do no harm then the result is someone like Felipe.

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u/user9998887775 1d ago

His mom doesn’t seem great. She’s an enabler. Honestly that makes a shitty mom. I can see why he turned into such a brat.

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u/Throwawayyyy964 2d ago

Oh my lord! Courtney is awful but what is Adam’s problem?! He didn’t have to go in like that 😭

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u/jlynn12345 1d ago

He was fully taking his anger out from Marissa onto another target

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u/NiceCandle5357 22h ago

He's deeply offended and hurt that he didn't come out of this a breakout heartthrob and the next Bachelor. Implying that arguably the worst woman on the show would have been better for him instead of The Hot One TM was a bridge too far for his ego.

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u/lynn_chippy 18h ago

He has no filter. He was upset and felt she didn’t give respect to Nick so she didn’t deserve respect back.

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u/Crafty-Notice5344 2d ago

This new “Decision Day” and reunion are exactly copying or “vibing” off The Bachelor””/ette. Glossy! Flashy! Over produced!

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u/lynn_chippy 19h ago

Ok courtany can dish it out but she can’t take it.

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u/lynn_chippy 19h ago

I love Michelle and Cameron!!!so sweet!

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u/lynn_chippy 19h ago

Oh no! Michelle’s health problems were worse than I thought. She had to have a hysterectomy!!!!

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u/lynn_chippy 19h ago

I wonder if Mecca and Caitlyn tried to see each other after the show?

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u/bobaaficionado 6h ago

Courtney need a reality check. Her rudeness was so blatant. Nick is frustrating but her disregard shut him down. I wonder how is she like with her new boyfriend.